Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!yale!Horne-Scott From: Horne-Scott@cs.yale.edu (Scott Horne) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Borland and other proprietary bloodsuckers (Was: Re: BISON, GCC, and the GNU public license.) Message-ID: <68903@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> Date: 7 Aug 89 17:17:12 GMT References: <26@ark1.nswc.navy.mil> <68726@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> <5559@ficc.uu.net> Sender: root@yale.UUCP Reply-To: Horne-Scott@cs.yale.edu (Scott Horne) Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept, New Haven, CT 06520-2158 Lines: 40 In-reply-to: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) In article <5559@ficc.uu.net>, peter@ficc (Peter da Silva) writes: > In article <68726@yale-celray.yale.UUCP>, Horne-Scott@cs.yale.edu (Scott Horne) writes: > > In article <5486@ficc.uu.net>, peter@ficc (Peter da Silva) writes: > > > In article <26880@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, mwm@eris.berkeley.edu (Mike (I'll think of something yet) Meyer) writes: > > > [back to commercial licenses] > > > > Correct. However, I don't see any commercial license agreement that > > > > doesn't require that either I buy time on the target hardware, or that > > > > the owner of the target hardware buy the commercial product, if I want > > > > them to have a trivial installation process. > > > > Check out any of Borland's products, Microsoft C, Lattice C, Lattice C++, > > > Aztec C, or any of the other microcomputer compiler vendors. > > > I have. > [long list of problems with Borland's support and buggy software] > > Quite irrelevant. > > Have a look at the subject under discussion. Has Borland ever required you > to: > > a) Buy time on any hardware. No, but this is irrelevant. I installed its software onto my own machine. If I'd wanted to install it onto a machine that I didn't own, then yes, I would have had to buy time on the machine. This was the point of discussion. > b) Require that anyone you write code for also buy Borland products? > c) Charged your royalties on your programs? I don't have the license here. I'll check into this. But I'm not sure what your point is. --Scott Scott Horne Undergraduate programmer, Yale CS Dept Facility horne@cs.Yale.edu ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne Home: 203 789-0877 SnailMail: Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT 06520 Work: 203 432-1260 Summer residence: 175 Dwight St, New Haven, CT Dare I speak for the amorphous gallimaufry of intellectual thought called Yale?