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From: swan@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US (Joel Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: GVP controller
Summary: Use facts, not fiction
Keywords: Think first .  Quantum, GVP A2090A
Message-ID: <1267@jolnet.ORPK.IL.US>
Date: 7 Aug 89 07:07:11 GMT
References: <437@accsys.UUCP>
Reply-To: swan@jolnet.UUCP (Joel Swan)
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In article <437@accsys.UUCP> wizard@accsys.UUCP (Christoph Brand) writes:
>In the latest intoductury posting it is said:
> 
>>The GVP HardCard is heavily recommended, clearly the best of the
>>established third Party cards.  It has been around a while, so all 
>>the bugs are gone, but it supposedly relies upon the processor to do 
> 
>BULLSHIT!
>I threw my GVP away, since I saw that it messes up with several
.
I'll take it...

>graphic software products, e.g. TurboSilver3.0 (animations can't be
>played anymore), B.A.D (doesn't work at all) and so on (however, it does 

I can't say about TS3.0, but I do know B.A.D. has had problems with most
HD's.  It certainly has problems with 40 meg partitions on both my Quantum
80S and Seagate 251-1 running WITH an A2090A. 
.
>not mess with standard-software like wordprocessors and spreadsheets) 
>Also, it doesn't work with the A2620, the 68020 processor board from 

The incompatability problem is the fault of early ROMS used on the A2620
board, NOT GPV's board.  I suggest getting your facts in order before
getting too embarrassed.  BTW- are the new ROMS now being used?  I don't
own a A2620.

>Obviously from what one hears the best controller must be the HardFrame, 
>but a) I don't know it and b) they said the same about the GVP controller.

I've heard the Hardframe had problems w/Quantum drives.  This may have been 
fixed.  Anyone care to tell?  I think it had to do with prepping.

>I use now a 2090a, and I don't have ANY problems with it; even with a
>normal ST506 drive, it is AS FAST as the GVP with a Quantum 40S; I wonder
>what it's going to do with a Quantum drive. 

I've used both the GVP and A2090A (own the A2090A, used the GVP).
The GVP is much easier to set up.  The support from GVP is phenominal
from everything I've heard (unlike some frustrating calls to CBM customer
support.  Thank goodness for C-A techs that help out on their own!)
The A2090A still has problems with 4bp high res screens and doesn't appear
to be any faster than the GVP, probably slower.  The A2091 should take care
of this.

>Anyway, when the GVP was released, everybody around here recommended it,
>but go ask a dealer now about it.....(of course, I don't know what they
>tell you in the US, but in Switzerland and Germany they tell you words 
.
There's the key.  
Support here has been great in NA from all reports.  Maybe GVP 
should check up on their Europe support.  It's unfortunate that one experience
and a couple unknowlegeable dealers can spoil someone's thinking like this.
I do hope GVP's reputation is not this bad ALL OVER Europe.  Is it?

>about the GVP controller that are too ugly to mention here...:-)
>It does not mess with standard-software like wordprocessors
>and spreadsheets. 
.
(the artircle qouted about Quantum drives)
.
>Now that's true. Quantum drives are superb, and VERY fast. But it
>depends very much on the controller, as I said, my 2090a with a slow 
>Epson ST506 drive works AS FAST as the GVP with the Quantum......

Hahahaha, hehehehe.  That's all I can say.

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Thank goodness most of the people reading this know better.
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