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From: ggibeau@ucqais.uc.edu (George Gibeau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Obese Agnus in 1000
Summary: cost of REjuvinator card for A1000
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Message-ID: <1769@ucqais.uc.edu>
Date: 7 Aug 89 21:06:18 GMT
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In article <928@corpane.UUCP>, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes:
> In article <1765@ucqais.uc.edu> ggibeau@ucqais.uc.edu (George Gibeau) writes:
> >A1000 should be ready in about 60-90 days.  He is going with
> >a commercial product, and the price should be around $600 for
> >a fully populated board (Agnus, 1 meg memory, clock, etc..).
> Two questions: 
> 1> why so much? because of the memory?, for that much I could sell my 1000
> for about $300, take that $600 for the board, add $200 more and buy an Amiga
> 2000.
> Hmm. lets see.... $150 for 1 meg of memory, $100 for the Agnus, $50 for support
> parts (caps, connectors, resistors, etc) . $25 for the PC board. $325 at cost.
> Maybe he should be selling for around $450, instead of $600. Us Amiga 1000
> owners are reluctant to shell out too much cash for a machine that we will
> probably end up replacing in a year or two anyway.
> 
> 2> What about the other half of the ECS? Will the A1000 be able to support
> that, how about with this board installed?
> 
> 
>
The PCB will cost more than $25.  Not only will it be done in small lots
(unsure of market potential as of yet), but there are fixed costs involved
in PCB (setup, drill master, etc.) that have to be spread over the
costs of the number of board actually produced.  THen there is the
stuffing costs, a electronics house will be doing all work (PCB
manufacturing and stuffing) this also adds costs to the board.  THey 
also do the quality control work (24 hour burn-in, test jigs, etc..)
Greg wants to make sure it is done right.  

Anything that is supported on the 500/2000 will be supported on the REjuvinator card
Rejuvinator card - as in the ECS.  Since the Denise chip will
drop in a 1000, why shouldn't it work with this card.  I think a lot
of folks have a misconception about the ECS and what chips are changing
and what chips are merely being enhanced (no form change).

Greg does not want to release this as a kit for reasons left to him,
suffice to say that it is an interesting hack that he has done and
will certainly benefit a lot of dealers.  WHile he does not think that
every 1000 owner will get one (after all, the kid down the street
who plays games all day certainly does not need the upgrade), there
should be enough developers and computer enthusiasts to make this worth
his while.  Greg is a electronics design person at the Wright Patterson
Air Force Base (in a civilian capacity), and he did this on his own time.
I can certainly see where he would like to make some money for all his
troubles, besides, since he is going commercial, there is the normal
costs involved when going through distributer such as discount points,
dealer copies, evaluation copies, etc (they DO all add up)

Regards,
	George

p.s.  Hello to the engineers from H.E.L.L.  - hey Brick - :-)

I can certainly see wher he
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