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From: JerryK@cup.portal.com (Jerry E Kindall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Kansasfest
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Date: 1 Aug 89 23:11:44 GMT
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Yes, some of us on the net did go to KansasFest.  I'm one of them, and I
can't remember why I didn't post a summary here.

Apple did indeed get roasted by the developers.  Barney Stone was the
ringleader.  Apple developers took the opportunity to blast Apple for
everything that they (Apple) had done wrong with the II line, ranging from
the hardware specs of the IIgs to the II line marketing.

There is some doubt as to whether or not this did any good.  After all, the
Apple people there were from the Apple II section and probably believe in
the Apple II as firmly as any of us.  The question now is to see if they
can make Corporate Apple see things their/our way.  In any case, it WAS a
great opportunity for people to get things off their chests and to make
sure Apple knew about their gripes.

Other highlights:

     o  Beagle Bros divulged TimeOut and AppleWorks technical info
     o  ProDev showed their awesome DDT card (IIe only right now)
     o  A new graphics demo written by a French pirate group which
        really shows off the GS's graphics abilities floated around
     o  Bill Mensch shared his vision of the 65xxx and the Apple II
     o  Laser showed a prototype IIgs clone (VERY prototype)

Amusing anecdote:

The world's best IIgs game programmers gathered together with a large
quantity of alcohol to produce a IIgs version of the classic Bilestoad.
Unfortunately the alcohol flowed so freely that they somehow got the
idea to do the game in lo-res because super hi-res was too difficult.
The last anyone saw of it was a bunch of lo-res dots scrolling around
on the screen.

International Visitors: attendees were present from Canada, the Netherlands,
Germany, and even the Soviet Union.

It was great fun meeting people like Roger Wagner, Barney Stone, Bob Sander-
Cederlof, Ross Lambert, Eric Mueller, Jay Jennings... the list goes on and
on.  From the pizza party the first night (they severely underestimated the
demand for pizza) to the ball game on the closing night to the after-hours
party in the dorms that raged into Sunday morning, it was a blast.

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