Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cica!ctrsol!ginosko!uunet!seismo!esosun!cogen!celerity!celit!rory From: rory@celerity.uucp (Thomas (Rory) Bolt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: SE/30 and Hard-Drives Message-ID: <392@celit.UUCP> Date: 28 Jul 89 16:40:02 GMT References: <23@ <126900060@p.cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@celerity Reply-To: rory@celerity.UUCP (Thomas (Rory) Bolt) Organization: FPS Computing Inc., San Diego CA Lines: 21 I have also had intermittant problems with the hard drive in my SE/30. My setup is a SE/30, 4MB ram, and an Apple 80MB internal disk drive (Quantum). The symptom is that the machine will not boot from the hard disk, and if booted from a floppy the hard disk will not show up. I tried cycling the power, zapping parameter ram, etc... to no avail. Usually the machine would just decide to become bootable again of its own free will within 10-15 minutes. Once the machine would not boot for a 24 hour period. Since I am a consultant specializing in SCSI peripherals, I was able to hook up a SCSI bus analyzer when the drive was in its confused state... (a matter of having all the equipment available when the drive was misbehaving - a rare occurance :-) ). Anyway, the drive was reporting a check condition on all accesses to the media. Upon issueing a request sense command, the drive returned a sense key of 0x04 (hardware error) and an extended sense code of 0xC8 (vendor unique error code :-( ). My machine was under warranty so I had my drive replaced, and I told the Apple repair center the information I had found, but to my dismay the paperwork that was sent to Apple said only "Drive won't boot - sometimes.". Since this was a very intermittant problem for me (three occurances in a little over a month of constant use) I am posting this information in the hopes that it will help someone at Apple or Quantum. I have no doubts that when they received my old drive and tested it, they found no problem.