Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!purdue!gatech!unmvax!polyslo!dorourke From: dorourke@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (David M. O'Rourke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Hey Apple Mac engineers, I want an answerO!! Keywords: DMA, coprocessing, improvements Message-ID: <13187@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> Date: 3 Aug 89 22:42:20 GMT References: <577@studsys.mu.edu> Reply-To: dorourke@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (David M. O'Rourke) Organization: Cal Poly State University -- San Luis Obispo Lines: 74 stevej@studsys.mu.edu (jovanovic) writes: [some stuff about what Apple should do.] What a Jerk!!! You know people are always putting down Apple for not doing the right thing. But you know they are nearly a 4 billion dollar company, and have consistantly offered one the finest personal computers on the Market. Regardless of what Marketing people might think, people just don't throw money at you because you have slick image, at some point that image has to produce. Apple makes money because their products do a pretty good job of living up to the Image that their marketing department puts forth. The Amiga's a nice machine, but it just isn't up to the caliper of the Macintosh when it comes to overall concept. The OS may be multi-tasking, and the hardware maybe nice, but I've yet to see it do anything better than the mac besides games. For better or for worse the Mac community has the developer community behind it, and as long as that continues the software will get done on the Mac first and other platforms afterwards. Talk with any Amiga owner who isn't religous, and they'll tell you the Amiga has it's fair share of short commings as well. EVERY COMPUTER DOES!!! IMHO OS/2 & presentation manager are fast, but given the hardware that they're running on top of they should be a lot faster. One of IBM ps 2's running a full blown OS config. and presentation manger feels like your running a Mac plus, that says a lot for the plus and not very much for the ps 2. Apple doesn't have to answer to this joker or anyone else. The market place will dictate what Apple does and how they do it. I'm not even sure this guy completly understand's DMA and all the ramifications of the different design decisions/choices avalible to Apple. I'd love to see this joker design Apple's next machine and then yell at them because what he designed now doesn't run his favority software package. Prototypes are easy, products are much more difficult. And the Mac community is notoriously picky when it comes to products. As far as Apple sticking with the "standard" 10 mhz Nu-bus, this is good for once. I never thought I'd hear someone complain because the Macintosh was "standard" :-) When you up the clock rate on a machine you up the requirments for all the support hardware and well. More expensive memory, more expensive I/O devices ect... People already complain about the price of mac's, I don't think that upping the clock rate and all of the associated changes that go along with it would lower that price point any. Apple may make mistakes. But basicly people do the best they can, and Apple like any other company is made up of people. But to be quite honest with you I can't think of a personal computer on the market that I'd rather have, and I thank the people at Apple for doing the best they can to keep the best computer on the market. If you really want you're welcome to buy an Amiga, PS/2, NeXT or whatever, but you must have bought the Mac for some reason over the other computers, so quit your whining and try to remember why you bought the Mac in the first place. It was because you felt it was the best computer for your needs, don't try and tell me that behind all of the Amiga's limited techincal gadget's that they don't wish of a developer community as healthy as the Mac's, or wish for as much software as the mac has. I do wish for faster hardware, but then again everyone does, and always will. Apple, IBM, NeXT, SUN, HP or anyone else will never build a computer fast enough for me. And given that realization, I think Apple and it's strong developer community will do just fine for a long time to come. Just my $0.02 worth. I speak for no one but myself. -- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\|///////////////////////////////////////// David M. O'Rourke____________________|_____________dorourke@polyslo.calpoly.edu | God doesn't know, he would have never designed it like that in the first | |_ place. ____________________________________________________________________|