Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!sun-barr!decwrl!shelby!portia!name From: name@portia.Stanford.EDU (tony cooper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: guide to using the wsmr-simtel20.army.mil via FTP Summary: Notes for Macs connected to the ARPANET Message-ID: <4268@portia.Stanford.EDU> Date: 4 Aug 89 23:23:17 GMT References: <43841@bbn.COM> Sender: tony cooper Organization: Stanford University Lines: 34 If you have a Macintosh connected to the net and want to use FTP to download files from simtel20 you may have problems if your version of FTP does not support tenex (or L 8 ) mode. Eg SU MAC/IP does not have tenex mode and maybe BYU Telnet does not either. It is necessary to use tenex mode since simtel20 has nine bit bytes wheras the Mac has 8 bit bytes. You can do the following: 1) Tell the simtel20 FTP server to go into tenex mode. This is done by sending the literal string "type L 8" to the simtel20 server. How to do this depends on your FTP program but in SU MAC/IP there is a menu item to do this. This works because then simtel20 send the file in tenex mode even though you are receiving in ordinary binary mode. If you can't do that then you can: 2) Use binary mode to download the program then convert the file into the 8 bit mode when it is on the Mac. This is easy - I wrote a simple program to do it. I'll send anyone a copy if they need it. Note that after the conversion the file still has a Macbinary header in front. Use binhex 5.0 or an equivalent program to fix this. If you can't do that then: 3) Go through a UNIX machine to do it. NCSA Telnet users have to do this anyway. It beats me why NCSA Telnet only has an FTP server, not a client. It makes the program useless for anonymous FTP's. Tony Cooper name@portia.stanford.edu Disclaimer. Half of the above is not true. The rest is false.