Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!dptg!att!cbnewsk!ech From: ech@cbnewsk.ATT.COM (ned.horvath) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: C++ for the Mac Message-ID: <786@cbnewsk.ATT.COM> Date: 4 Aug 89 17:37:20 GMT References: <2278@husc6.harvard.edu> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 21 Earlier, I wrote: >So I'll rephrase my original statement, thus: unless you are a Maroney- >class guru, and you are prepared to do one shitload of work, you aren't >going to be using virtual methods in non-applications any time soon. From article <2278@husc6.harvard.edu>, by siegel@endor.harvard.edu (Rich Siegel): > I guess Mike Kahl is a Maroney-class :-) guru, then, because THINK > C 4.0 lets you write *anything* using Object C. Applications, DA's, > drivers, cdevs, inits, whatever. And non-applications can consist of > multiple segments. Gees, Rich, read the WHOLE article, willya?? My point was with respect to the forthcoming MPW C++ (please note the MPW, a product of a company not yet owned by Symantec). And my point was precisely that Apple is the only major compiler supplier that doesn't provide adequate runtime support for non-apps. There's no excuse for this shortcoming, particularly in view of all of Apple's "become object-oriented or die!" hype. It is right and proper for Kahl to provide such support; it is inappropriate for customers of MPW to have to roll their own. =Ned=