Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcvax!kth!draken!tut!tukki!makela From: makela@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: CD to DAT agreement Keywords: DAT, CD, digital audio Message-ID: <1104@tukki.jyu.fi> Date: 7 Aug 89 03:59:26 GMT References: <752@palladium.UUCP> Reply-To: makela@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Organization: Grand Hall of Justice, Mega-City One Lines: 21 Subject-Was: Re: Copy protection bit set on my CD player (digital out). Comment: Sorry about the (perhaps) inappropriate newsgroup, but we don't get rec.audio at this site (anywhere in Europe ?) In article <752@palladium.UUCP>, rsilvers@palladium.UUCP (rsilvers) says: > The Sony-Betamax case won in court. It allows you to make a single >copy of any copywrited material for your own use. I do not think this >should be ignored in the DAT issue. I am tired of advancing technology >being crippled. Actually, over here in Finland, the copyright laws have always permitted unlimited copies of copyrighted material FOR PERSONAL USE. I have always assumed it was based on international agreements ? I recently read that the DAT manufacturers and the audio companies had finally reached an agreement on making DATs which allow copying of CDs. The catch was, the DAT was supposed to make only one copy of each CD. Does anyone have any idea how a silly restriction like this would be enforced ? Putting huge NV-RAMs inside DATs or something ? This would also seem easily defeatable... Otto J. Makela, University of Jyvaskyla InterNet: makela@tukki.jyu.fi, BitNet: MAKELA_OTTO_@FINJYU.BITNET BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.22bis/V.22/V.21, 24h/d), Phone: +358 41 613 847 Mail: Kauppakatu 1 B 18, SF-40100 Jyvaskyla, Finland, EUROPE