Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!pacbell!ames!pasteur!helios.ee.lbl.gov!beva.bev.lbl.gov!wbrown From: wbrown@beva.bev.lbl.gov (Bill Brown) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Touching a "hot" connector Keywords: touch, sensation, live, shock Message-ID: <3517@helios.ee.lbl.gov> Date: 7 Aug 89 20:10:31 GMT References: <89Jun8.160452edt.10877@ephemeral.ai.toronto.edu> <814@corpane.UUCP> <427@edai.ed.ac.uk> <1528@sunset.MATH.UCLA.EDU> <498@edai.ed.ac.uk> Sender: usenet@helios.ee.lbl.gov Reply-To: wlbrown@lbl.gov (Bill Brown) Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley Lines: 45 In article <498@edai.ed.ac.uk> cam@edai (Chris Malcolm) writes: >I'd like to thank all those kind people who have expressed concern for >my continued existence, given my habit of touching live wires to see if >they are live. > ... >Well, as I promised, I tested my resistance. As I said I have dry skin. >With a light touch. such as I use for testing mains, my resistance is >>10MOhm. If I dampen my fingers by breathing on them, and grab the test >prods painfully firmly, I can bring it down to around 10KOhm. That's >still an order of magnitude under the lethal current. So you all kind >folks can stop worrying about me! > As best I can remember, (it was a long time ago - longer than I like to contemplate!!!) CG-165 , "U.S.Coast Guard Electronics Manual", quoted 50 ma as being enough to stop the heart, or in the case of A.C. (60 Hz) put it into fribulation(sp?). Aw what the heck, 1/2 order of magnitude is plenty! Like gee whiz, a factor of two ought to be ok! Especially since al theses values are so exact. An inch is as good as a mile! I vaguely recall a line from something called "The 10 Electro-Commandments" that went something like this: "Tary not among those fools who engage in intentional shocks, as they are surely unbeleivers and are not long for this world." There was also a line to the effect that: "... electric cooking is a slothful process and one may simmer in ones' juices for hours before the Maker sees fit to drag thee from this vale of tears." >Does anyone know what would happen if one inadvertently, one rainy >night, with wet feet, pissed onto an electric fence? >-- The exercise is left to the foolish as an experiment. >Chris Malcolm cam@uk.ac.ed.edai 031 667 1011 x2550 >Department of Artificial Intelligence, Edinburgh University ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AHA!!!!!! >5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK -bill wlbrown@lbl.gov Disclaimer: These opinions are my own and have nothing to do with the official policy or management of L.B.L, who probably couldn't care less about employees who play with trains.