Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: smb@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Steven M. Bellovin) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Shielding Nukes Keywords: not much help Message-ID: <8662@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 28 Jul 89 02:55:28 GMT References: <8530@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 36 Approved: military@att.att.com From: smb@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Steven M. Bellovin) In article <8530@cbnews.ATT.COM>, arf@chinet.chi.il.us (Jack Schmidling) writes: > Watches with illuminous dials are not reactors either but lots of women died > very horrible deaths from painting the dials. Frankly, I wouldn't sleep with > a watch, much less a nuke. We're getting a bit far afield here, but... Comparing the hazards from painting watch dials to being near a nuclear weapon is like comparing apples and oranges. First, the watch dials were painted with radium, not plutonium, U-235, or tritium, the major radioactive substances in today's bombs. (Actually, I don't think U-235 is used anymore, since it's not suitable for implosion detonation.) There is also a very small amount of something else as a neutron source; I don't know what's used today. Second, the women did not die just from painting the dials -- though that might have been sufficient -- rather, they were taught to twirl the tip of the brush in their mouths to produce a nice fine point. They were *ingesting* radium, in other words. You may be right about the risks from being too near nuclear weapons -- I don't know; I've never been that intimate with one -- but I'd like to see some hard data, rather than analogies. As long as I'm being technical, an earlier poster spoke of how cold space is. Space, being a vacuum, has no temperature; only objects in space do. In many satellites -- and certainly in something like the shuttle or a space station -- the major problem is getting rid of excess heat, not in staying warm. A satellite containing a nuclear weapon may show up as warmer than other satellites of the same size and power consumption, but that's not at all the same thing. --Steve Bellovin