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From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (richard welty)
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Subject: Re: Tulsa's Underwater Navy
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Date: 1 Aug 89 03:00:20 GMT
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From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (richard welty)

In article <8677@cbnews.ATT.COM>, Bob Beville writes: 
*	Isn't the U-boat you saw in Chicago the ' U-505 '
*	captured in May 1944 by Capt. Gallery on the 
*	_S.S._Pillsbury_
*	described in _THE_CODEBREAKERS_ by Kahn,  and
*	Capt. Gallery's own book, _U-505_  ??????

Gallery's book is _Twenty Thousand Tons Under the Sea_;
i don't recall the publisher or the date of publication.

what is not commonly known is that Gallery almost was
courtmartialed because he captured the sub; if the
Germans had found out that a sub had been captured intact
with its Enigma machine and codebooks, they might have
made major changes to their communications and Ultra might
have become useless.  for this reason, the knowledge of the
capture of U 505 was suppressed for some time afterwards.

and there are still no good general histories of WWII that
take Ultra into account (i just finished a new one that
purports to be such a book; it's bloody awful and i'll be
posting a detailed review explaining why i think that in
the very near future.)

richard
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