Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!iuvax!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!daemon From: bevans@jarthur.claremont.edu Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: understanding from the outside Message-ID: <13096@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Date: 29 Jul 89 00:54:17 GMT References: <12870@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <15081@duke.cs.duke.edu> Sender: ambar@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU Reply-To: bevans@jarthur.claremont.edu (Brian Evans) Organization: Society for the Preservation of E. coli Lines: 21 Approved: ambar@bloom-beacon.mit.edu The problem with saying that the oppressor defines the problem is that the oppressor doesn't think there IS a problem. Just because a person is a member of a group that has shown that it can be bigotted, doesn't mean that said person is bigotted. There is a point saying that a person who hasn't experienced a certain experience does not have the same perceptions as one who has had the experience. But that is what research is for. If I am trying to write a paper about what it means to be a woman, I'm going to go ask women. I'm also going to go ask men (to get another viewpoint). While Shere Hite had a horrid method in gathering her material (apparently, she had a terrible return rate, like 5%, for her questionaires in her last report yet she went ahead with her report), she had a very good form of her report. That is, she published the responses she received and based her conclusions on those responses. -- Brian Evans "It has been scientifically proven bevans@hmcvax.bitnet that scientists cause cancer in bevans@jarthur.claremont.edu laboratory rats." or !uunet!jarthur!bevans