Xref: utzoo comp.graphics:6972 rec.video:7563 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!iuvax!cica!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ulysses!ggs From: ggs@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Griff Smith) Newsgroups: comp.graphics,rec.video Subject: Re: HDTV and ATV Glossary (TN32) (really interlace) Summary: I think I've heard this story before Keywords: 525/59.94, 625/50, NTSC, PAL, SECAM, Component, Composite, Message-ID: <12052@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> Date: 18 Aug 89 13:38:02 GMT References: <120919@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <121076@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <428@ctycal.UUCP> <1612@unccvax.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 39 In article <1612@unccvax.UUCP>, dya@unccvax.UUCP (York David Anthony @ WKTD, Wilmington, NC) writes: > In article <12045@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com>, ggs@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Griff Smith) writes: > > > Interlace seems to be an excellent way to cut the bandwidth in half > > while avoiding flicker and motion artifacts. Other than pressure > > from the movie industry, what are the other arguments for eliminating > > interlace? [deleted some good arguments against interlace] > Yes, interlacing does save approximately half the bandwidth, > but it also cuts the information content in the diagonal and vertical > domain. > > York David Anthony > BPH-880505OT (WRPL) Wadesboro, NC Thanks, I think I learned something. This all seems familiar, though. Back in the 1970's, people in the computer industry were moaning about the evils of using NRZI encoding for magnetic data tapes: poor clock recovery, no skew correction, etc. The solution was (flourish of trumpets) Phase Encoding. Double the bit density, but reserve half the bits for flux change references. We all thought this was wonderful. But the next revolution went back to NRZI. In the interim, the advances in electronics had made it possible to conquer the NRZI dragon. They used GCR to make the flux change density high enough to ensure proper clock recovery. I would be delighted to see 60 hz progressive scan HDTV, but I assume we can't afford the bandwidth yet. Given a choice between using 30 Hz progressive scan with motion artifacts caused by frame doubling, and using 60Hz interlaced scan with alternate fields digitally synthesized to eliminate twitter, I'll take the latter. I think a lot of the problems you describe will go away as more intelligent receiving equipment becomes available. 24 Hz is a short-sighted standard, and I'm annoyed that it's even being considered. -- Griff Smith AT&T (Bell Laboratories), Murray Hill Phone: 1-201-582-7736 UUCP: {most AT&T sites}!ulysses!ggs Internet: ggs@ulysses.att.com