Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!husc6!mit-eddie!mit-amt!peter From: peter@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Peter Schroeder) Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Re: SigGraph Fractal Compression Message-ID: <537@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Date: 19 Aug 89 18:59:40 GMT References: <444@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> <20400001@inmet> <5455@ttidca.TTI.COM> <8770@saturn.ucsc.edu> Reply-To: peter@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Peter Schroeder) Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge Lines: 35 In article <8770@saturn.ucsc.edu> chucko@saturn.ucsc.edu (Chuck Stein) writes: > > I have heard no talk of fidelity of the reconstructed fractally >compressed images. Has Barnsly or anyone else compared reconstructed >images with those produced using other techniques such as DCT. I haven't >seen the latest pictures, but the old ones look quite impressionistic. >MSE-based signal-to-noise ratio fidelity metrics are poor when comparing >across different compression techniques, but subjective rating-scale >tests or psychophysical tests can be performed to compare between methods. >What kind of fidelity measures do they talk about (if they do)? > > Chuck Stein {chucko@saturn.ucsc.edu} I saw some of the latest images at the conference Computers and Mathematics and must say I am very impressed! I also thought the earlier ones looked just like painters' impressions of the original photograph. This time he showed among other things a photo of himself and the fractally reconstructed version of it. The only difference that I could detect, was an ever so slight blurring, which they might have added after the reconstruction itself. Supposedly it was a compression ratio of 1:128 which is as good as the best compression techniques for movies (!) that I know about. Since the fractal compression is still in it's infancy I suspect they might do even better, while the other techniques have to push very hard now to reach anything above 1:100... The main question that remains for me at this point is, whether it will work with sequences of images, that is over a 2D x time domain. It turns out that it is nontrivial to make a technique, which works for a single picture, work for a sequence of pictures without artifacts which only become visible in the sequence. Peter peter@media-lab.media.mit.edu