Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cica!iuvax!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!uw-entropy!quick!happym!nwnexus!edm From: edm@nwnexus.WA.COM (Ed Morin) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: to PEP or not to PEP? Message-ID: <160@nwnexus.WA.COM> Date: 11 Aug 89 17:38:17 GMT References: <1989Aug10.175458.20369@utzoo.uucp> <221@van-bc.UUCP> Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.; Seattle, WA Lines: 44 In the same vein, here is another situation which gives pause to consider whether to PEP or not. I'll try to be concise by using a somewhat contrived example involving the machine "homesite": 1. homesite has all TrailBlazer dialins and dialouts. 2. homesite has crummy multiplexers (not uncommon) and gets about 12kb sending and 8kb receiving performance for one line with *no other activity*. 3. When other lines are active (possibly in PEP), the performance degrades significantly. In fact, over a 3 week period it tends to average about 4kb for received data (faster for sent data)! 4. Now, since homesite connects to UUNET, and homesite's pocketbook is not infinite, there is incentive to optimize the connection. Roughly speaking, if you say that a 2400 baud connection averages around 2kb (which it seems to for a small sample) then any 2400 baud solution needs to be multiplied by 2 to make it somewhat equivalent to a PEP connection. Here is a brief comparison of per hour rates normalized to a 4kb transfer rate: Day Evening Night UUNET 800 16 13 10 CompuServe 10 10 10 As you can see, CompuServe is cheaper, even at a slower baud rate, than the UUNET 800 dialin during the day and evening! But that's only because the multiplexers aren't taking full advantage of the TrailBlazer speeds! And there are even cheaper possibilities than this with slow speed connections... So, my question is, has anybody else done this exercise in more detail. I have more notes, but didn't post them in order to keep things simple. My reaction to all this was "No wonder there are people in the world who do nothing but manage datacommunications connections." Sigh. -- Ed Morin Northwest Nexus Inc. "Unix Public Access for the Masses!" edm@nwnexus.WA.COM