Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!usc!ucsd!brian From: brian@ucsd.EDU (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Police-radar countermeasures (and rockets) Message-ID: <1907@ucsd.EDU> Date: 18 Aug 89 15:34:44 GMT References: <414@ctycal.UUCP> <19212@vax5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU> <3211@garth.UUCP> Reply-To: brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) Distribution: na Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Lines: 36 Receive-only anti-police ECM: The IF depends on the band and brand, but the majority of cop radios in SoCal are Motorola Micors and Syntors; they use an 11.7 MHz IF and you'll find the LO injecting into the mixer at +/- 11.7 from the receive frequency. Thus you can tune a sensitive receiver to the appropriate frequency and when the squelch starts to burble, there's a cop-car ["fuzz-mobile"] in the vicinity. The radio in the local police helicopter ["whirly-pig"] seems to radiate more, but they tend to hang out on the "tactical" or "air-support" channels so you might not be listening there. Another popular IF is 10.7 MHz; same technique applies. Older radios such as the Motrac used 12MHz. Ask a local technically-inclined ham; he'll probably know what's popular in your area. The CHP has a problem with walkies - they run low-band radios (around 41 MHz) to get really good coverage in mountain passes, valleys, and canyons. But nobody makes a really good low-band walkie, and the antenna is too big anyway - and they don't run enough power. So lots of CHP cars are equipped with cross-band .5w walkie repeaters that allow the officer to carry a high-band (150MHz) walkie with him and use the car's 100w+ low-band radio. So you just program the walkie talkback channel into your scanner and if you hear the dispatcher, you're probably within a 1/2 mile of a CHiPpie. Since they don't use radar, that's likely the only way you'll have some warning - those black mustangs with no external lights really aren't very obvious. And of course an X/K band ECM receiver (aka "radar detector") is essential in towns that enhance their revenues with speeding tickets. Snoop and listen - while you still can. "Those who forsake liberty for security deserve neither." -- Franklin