Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!military From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: infrared and interceptors Message-ID: <26707@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: 11 Aug 89 05:43:35 GMT Sender: cdr@amdcad.AMD.COM Lines: 43 Approved: military@amdcad.amd.com From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) >Are "nuclear anitaircraft weapons" antiaircraft weapons that use >nuclear devices or are they antiaircraft weapons used against aircraft >carrying nuclear devices? The former. Several were developed and deployed in the 1950s, notably nuclear warheads for major SAMs (e.g. Nike-Hercules and Bomarc) and the Genie AAM (which was actually an unguided rocket with a nuclear warhead). I'm not sure about the SAMs, but Genie was successfully tested at least once with a live warhead. The attraction of nuclear antiaircraft weapons is the obvious: it's no longer necessary to get a direct hit or very near miss. A significant side issue, at the time, was that they promised to be enormously effective against the WW2-vintage tight bomber formations that were then in fashion. Formation tactics were promptly abandoned, but the missiles were still in service, with numbers dwindling, until the mid-70s I think. I wouldn't be surprised if Patriot has nuclear capability, although my references aren't handy. >Using a nuclear device to shoot down an aircraft sounds like a really >bad idea. Consider the EMP effect on your own systems, for one thing. EMP wasn't taken as seriously -- among other reasons, because it wasn't as serious with vacuum tubes! -- when most of those things were designed. >Also, it's hard to be the first user of a nuclear device, even as a >preemptive event. These would be tactical weapons [but] I can't imagine >that control would be surrendered to the field... These weapons mostly originated in "massive retaliation" days, when it was official doctrine that any significant war would immediately go nuclear. In any case, most (all?) of them were deployed primarily as strategic defences, not in tactical applications. Both USAF Aerospace Defense Command and the RCAF deployed Genie in interceptors, for example, but I don't *think* it was ever deployed in Europe. The expected targets were nuclear-armed bombers with evil intentions :-), so first use was not thought to be an issue. Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu