Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!amdahl!amdcad!military From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (Richard Welty) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: infrared and interceptors Message-ID: <26791@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: 16 Aug 89 06:17:10 GMT References: <26689@amdcad.AMD.COM> <26728@amdcad.AMD.COM> Sender: cdr@amdcad.AMD.COM Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies Lines: 49 Approved: military@amdcad.amd.com From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (Richard Welty) In article <26728@amdcad.AMD.COM>, Jeff Medcalf writes: *From: jeffm@uokmax.UUCP (Jeff Medcalf) *>From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (Richard Welty) *>they got obsoleted before our time; but there were a few nuclear *>tipped AAMs; my recollection is that there was an F-101 variant *>specialized to carry such a missle (perhaps named ``Genie''?) *AIR-2A Genie. It was simply a rocket with a blast radius of 1.5 miles (?) *which was fired in the direction of the target. I think it was command fused. *The F-102 and F-106 could carry one each in addition to two Falcon missiles. *The F-101 never carried, to my knowledge, the AIR-2. BTW, F-101? Maybe I am *thinking of the CF-101. Is there a difference between the Voodoo and the CF101? there were a number of Voodoo variants; some were reconnaissance, some were fighter-bombers, and the F-101B was an interceptor, which could carry 2 Genie rockets (i checked my references the other night, and found that they were rather spotty about the F-101, but one listed the design armaments for the individual models, and shows the 101B with an interceptor load. the same reference shows the 106 carrying 2 Genie rockets and 2 Falcons, but the 102 as carrying only Falcons.) *No, it was rational. The entire system was almost humanless. well, it depends on what you consider rational. * SAGE computers *directed the aircraft and SAM's. The humans simply OKd the use of the weapons *and the system did the rest. from this viewpoint, i could only partially agree -- it depends on your view of the issue of taking the human `out of the loop', which is a very, very touchy issue. * In fact, F-102's or F-106's (I forget which) can *perform their mission without a pilot on board. it was the 106 that could operate entirely under SAGE control. note that the pilot still had to be around to land the aircraft. richard -- richard welty 518-387-6346, GE R&D, K1-5C39, Niskayuna, New York ..!crdgw1!lewis.crd.ge.com!welty welty@lewis.crd.ge.com Officer: Do you know how fast you were going? Driver: No. The speedometer only goes up to 85