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From: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.bugs.4bsd
Subject: Re: stealth technology for find(1)
Message-ID: <5856@ficc.uu.net>
Date: 23 Aug 89 19:25:20 GMT
References: <3584@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <250@paperboy.OSF.ORG> <5521@videovax.tv.Tek.com>
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In article <5521@videovax.tv.Tek.com>, bart@videovax.tv.Tek.com (Bart Massey) writes:
>      st_atime    Time when file data was last accessed.  Changed
>                  by the following system calls: mknod(2),
>                  utimes(2), and read(2).  For reasons of effi-
>                  ciency, st_atime is not set when a directory is
>                  searched, although this would be more logical.

This means:

	% cat /usr/fred/project/wheaties/raisins
					 ^^^^^^^-- This file is read.
	      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-- These directories are *searched*.
					   for reasons of efficiency, atime
					   is not modified.
	% ls /usr/fred/project/wheaties
	     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^------------ These directories are searched.
			       ^^^^^^^^--- This directory is *read*. That is,
					   it is opened and the read(2) sys
					   call is performed (maybe multiple
					   times). This is of course hidden
					   in the directory access routines.

A directory being searched has a specific meaning in UNIX: it's what namei
does to resolve a path. Find actually opens and reads the directory.
-- 
Peter da Silva, *NIX support guy @ Ferranti International Controls Corporation.
Biz: peter@ficc.uu.net, +1 713 274 5180. Fun: peter@sugar.hackercorp.com. `-_-'
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