Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!dewey.soe.berkeley.edu!thom From: thom@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Thom Gillespie) Newsgroups: comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: Cross-linguistic issues in the design of Icons Keywords: interfaces, icons, cross-linguistic issues, Spanish Message-ID: <30800@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 22 Aug 89 00:54:42 GMT References: <9268@cs.Buffalo.EDU> <1985@softway.oz> <6531@stiatl.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: thom@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Thom Gillespie) Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley Lines: 23 In article <6531@stiatl.UUCP> tom@stiatl.UUCP (Tom Wiencko) writes: > >The folks who sent out out Galactic calling card (was it Voyager?) fought >with this idea, and came up with symbols they felt would be as universal >as possible. They were visual in nature (thus arguably could be called >icons) as well as physical representations of sound (in the form of some >sort of a phonograph record). It is interesting to note, however, that >even on this planet many, many people who saw these symbols and heard >the recording could not figure out what was being communicated. ... I realize that we think of 'icon' as pictorial but it doesn't seem that we have to. It might be useful to expand the idea to sound, smell, taste or touch. I mean after all icon originally meant a sacred image until it was secularized. But why not an iconic sound. I'll bet the iconic sound of a wolf in the woods at midnight with you in the quallofil has a similar impact on an awful lot of people regardless of their language ... or the sound of a rattle snake in the dark.I first met a ratle snake on a desert road in the dark five years ago ... every inch of me except for my brain knew what was 2 feet away from me. After I untangled myself from my bike which I feel backwards over I realized what almost happened. I think that in the west ( where I live) we over emphasis our visual information. For universal icons I vote for wolf and rattle smake sounds and maybe brown bear smell in early spring on Kodiak Island. These I consider natural. --Thom