Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!sce!ulysses!garym From: garym@ulysses.UUCP (Gary Murphy) Newsgroups: comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: Cross-linguistic issues in the design of Icons Message-ID: <6908@ulysses.UUCP> Date: 22 Aug 89 18:48:55 GMT References: <9268@cs.Buffalo.EDU> <1985@softway.oz> <1989Aug20.005726.27233@utzoo.uucp> <30767@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <9446@cs.Buffalo.EDU> Reply-To: garym@cognos.UUCP (Gary Murphy) Organization: Cognos Inc., Ottawa, Canada Lines: 29 An icon like the red circle and cross-bar might be readily understood wherever there are cars, but I think that's more due to the origins of the automobile than anything transcendental; if you buy the cars from the U.S. or Europe, chances are, your government will buy the road signs from the same place. As for the New Guinea natives, how about the universal sign - that's the one with a long, flowing 'C' followed by three letters, two of them vowels, a space, a different, more contracted 'C' and the letters o-l-a :-). Forget universal symbols - how many years did Jung search for just the same only to arrive at a tentative list of very abstract notions. Even the Egyptians dissagreed as to whether the solar disk signified the apparent orb or the force that drives it. For an issue in cog-eng, I'd think that the criteria should suit the animal - people are very intelligent, especially with symbols (how many different word-processing keystroke vocabularies do YOU know). The trick is not to get it right the first time, but to design the software attached to the button to be forgiving of novice attempts. If the process is dangerous, try to outline the consequences (very difficult if you want to stick to icons) or at the very least, provide good recovery/abort controls. If the process is clear, have no fear that the operator will learn WHATEVER symbol you use. -- Gary Murphy - Cognos Incorporated - (613) 738-1338 x5537 3755 Riverside Dr - P.O. Box 9707 - Ottawa Ont - CANADA K1G 3N3 e-mail: decvax!utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!garym Cosmic Irreversibility: 1 pot T -> 1 pot P, 1 pot P /-> 1 pot T