Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wasatch!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!texbell!vector!telecom-gateway From: wnp@attctc.dallas.tx.us (Wolf Paul) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Mich Bell Strike Brings Vandalism Message-ID: Date: 18 Aug 89 11:59:32 GMT Sender: news@vector.Dallas.TX.US Reply-To: wnp@attctc.dallas.tx.us Organization: The Unix(R) Connection BBS, Dallas, Tx Lines: 39 Approved: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 310, message 7 of 10 In article bob@rel.mi.org (Bob Leffler) writes: >>The union denies that any of their members has anything to do with this >>incident. My personal opinion is that the timing is too close to >>the strike to not be a disgrutled employee. > >It is very rare for unions to encourage or know of any activities like this >by individual members. Unfortunately, people who already have strong >anti-union sentiments use incidents like this to cast shadows on unions and >union activity >in general. Management has done these type of things far more often than >unions, just to try to make unions look bad, which helps management to break >unions and further exploit workers. >Followups via email please. There was a time in labor relations when both unions and management engaged in these kinds of tactics; if you maintain that management still uses these as widely as you seem to imply, you ought to back it up with some statistics, not just make a statement like this. It could well have been a disgruntled employee, without the union being aware of it or having encouraged it. As someone else pointed out, the Baby Bells really have nothing to lose: People are still using the phones, while they are paying fewer employees, and if the service deteriorates, that's all right, people have nowhere else to turn anyway. Therefore I do not see the Baby Bells using such drastic and potentially backfiring tactics. We're talking federal offense here. And b.t.w: having made a controversial statement, don't try to discourage public discussion of it by redirecting to email. That's a cop-out. -- Wolf N. Paul * 3387 Sam Rayburn Run * Carrollton TX 75007 * (214) 306-9101 UUCP: {texbell, attctc, dalsqnt}!dcs!wnp DOMAIN: wnp@attctc.dallas.tx.us or wnp%dcs@texbell.swbt.com NOTICE: As of July 3, 1989, "killer" has become "attctc".