Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!lll-winken!netsys!vector!telecom-gateway From: arnor!uri@uunet.uu.net (Uri Blumenthal) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Caller ID Privacy Question Message-ID: Date: 22 Aug 89 15:59:28 GMT Sender: news@vector.Dallas.TX.US Organization: IBM Corp., Yorktown NY Lines: 48 Approved: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 320, message 3 of 10 From article >[Moderator's Note: Under your scenario, when we exchange phone numbers on >>first meeting, we also have to exchange secret numbers! "...my phone call >>will generate '123MJ5092G&H?' on your readout.....I am only giving you this >>because you are too ... to answer your phone and tell the bill collectors >>and itinerant telemarketing people to bug off...." Much too complicated. >>Let's just show the number of origin, and start being responsible for our >>behavior and actions on the phone, okay? PT] > > 1) If everyone started being responsible for phone usage, you wouldn't > need Caller*ID at all! > 2) I can be responsible for *my* usage, but want to keep my number guarded > because I can't guarantee the recipient will be responsible with the inf Wrong. If you want to keep your number guarded - make it unlisted (see previous discussion). If you don't - let's keep all the thing simple. It IS a lot more convenient, when you have either REAL person's name or his/her phone number the call's made from. At least ONE of those IS necessary. You don't want to give up the number - let it be another ID. But why make all the matter so complicated for nothing? From article by ficc!peter@uunet.uu.net: > It's pretty obvious that there need to be rules for this sort of thing. They > don't even have to be very complex: > > (a) Have a 'privacy' prefix, like the current *70 Cancel Call > Waiting prefix. > > (b) Telephones with unlisted numbers show up as 'unlisted'. > > Outdial phones for emergency centers or shelters would just be unlisted. Sorry, both points are wrong (:-). a) Cancel Call Waiting is NOT necessarily *70. Actually, somewhere it simply doesn't exist (:-). b) To allow ANY number to be just 'unlisted' will screw up all the system. The only way is to make some codes/names show up instead of real phone numbers, so that the caller CAN BE IDENTIFIED, but YOU CAN'T CALL HIM BACK. Regards, Uri. --------------