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From: jonnyg@umd5.umd.edu (Jon Greenblatt)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.lang.c++
Subject: C_Talk review and final review if CommonView C++.
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Date: 23 Aug 89 17:46:41 GMT
Reply-To: jonnyg@umd5.umd.edu (Jon Greenblatt)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
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	First of all I finished reviewing CommonView C++. I found it to
be mostly broken. The class library is realy bad and the examples won't
hold water. I saw a lot of promises in the read.me's that say so much will
happen in such a short time that I beleive none of it will happen.
Now that I fully understand C++ I feel C++ is to OOPS as COBOL is to
stuctured programming! C++ may be an OOPS but it is not a very good one.

	I got C_Talk in yesturday and I am truly amazed at how rich the
environment is. Of all the OOPS I have seen ACTOR has the best syntax, it
is intepreted however which does limit you in terms of size and speed.
C_talk gives you the ACTOR/SmallTalk like environment with all the power,
speed, and flexability of C. C_Talk is compiled so the executable modules are
fast. The environment includes a browser which simplifies using the Class
heirarchy. The syntax on the OOPS side is a little flakey due to it's
similarity to SmallTalk but the language is rich enough that I can ignore
that. I gave 5 minute demo of C_Talk to someone in my office and they
immediatly stole my second copy of C_Talk and are ready to make it their next
programming environment. The final apps produced by C_talk are small, compact,
and fast. The class library is rich and the source code is provided!
(A REAL PLUS!).

	In summary I think C_Talk is excellent and I highly recomend it
to anyone who wishes a complete  OOPS environment in C.


						JonnyG.