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From: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Save Tagged Mail _Fast_!
Keywords: Kudos
Message-ID: <1989Aug23.225206.538@DSI.COM>
Date: 23 Aug 89 22:52:06 GMT
References: <1989Aug23.121938.2967@DRD.Com> <2969@mace.cc.purdue.edu>
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Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc.  Huntingdon Valley, PA
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asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) writes:

.- Elm be more flexible in file locking.  Our system for instance doesn't have
.  group id permission set in /usr/spool/mail.  Tis an easy fix, by changing
.  the file lock to the XENIX version, but couldn't Elm try the first method
.  and then the second itself.  Would allow a bit more flexibility I would
.  think.
File locking needs to be configuration time based, because if it failed,
you wouldn't want Elm blindly going on, risking loosing the mail.

.First off:  This is a Vax8800 running Ultrix2.2.  I have Elm2.2 pl10.

.I've gone into the alias section and tried to delete aliases.  No go.  It
.correctly identifies the alias, asks me if I want to delete it, I say yes, it
.says it's updating the list, then re-reading them in, but nothing ever
.changes.  Currently, elm is not installed yet (I'm just making sure it works),
.but it should have access to the necessary files.  It just doesn't do diddly.
If the alias has multiple names (a,b = test = name), it is a know bug
that it doesn't delete it.  Other than that, are you sure it has
access to newalias (on the path), as that is required to recompile the
aliases.

.Also, I recall some discussion about newmail not quiting when a terminal logs
.out. ...
This is due to some systems not passing the sighup signal to the 
children.  For newmail to go away, it must still be associated with
your terminal, and your terminal must have hupcl set.  If your method
of placing it in the background disassociates it from the terminal,
as in using csh and an & on the end, it won't go away.  It depends on
getting the hupcl signal.  It is best in that case to have it automatically
go into the background (config option) and then start it without a &,
and do not do so from a script that is already disassociated from the
terminal.

.	"Can't invoke /usr/local/bin/jove for composition!"
This is also a common problem.  If jove returns a non zero status,
thats an error status, some editors, by mistake, return non zero status
when there is nothing wrong.  In this case, either fix the editor,
or wrap it in a shell script that has an exit 0 to clear the return status.
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Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP                   Elm Coordinator
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