Path: utzoo!censor!geac!jtsv16!brian From: brian@jtsv16.UUCP (Brian A. Jarvis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Software theives (FLAME ON!!) Message-ID: <1083@jtsv16.UUCP> Date: 23 Aug 89 16:28:59 GMT References: <30706@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <6846@rpi.edu> <21818@cos.com> Reply-To: brian@jtsv16.jts.com (Brian A. Jarvis) Distribution: usa Organization: JTS Computer Systems Ltd., Toronto Lines: 103 In article <21818@cos.com> andrews@cos.com (Andrew R. Scholnick) writes: >In article <6846@rpi.edu>, kudla@pawl.rpi.edu (Robert J. Kudla) writes: >> In article <30706@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> mitchell@janus.berkeley.edu (Evan Mitchell) writes: > >> [about people coming in and installing viruses, stealing actual disks, >> copying disks in-store, killing freely-redistributable stuff, etc] > >> (Some people might think this to be a shift in attitudes coming from >> me. Most people probably don't care one way or the other. But, I >> consider actually lifting product from the shelves to be a crime. I >> don't consider, say, an employee taking a piece of software home, >> copying it, bringing it back and re-shelving it with new labels and >> all to be a crime in the slightest.) > >> Robert Jude Kudla >> Pi-Rho America \\ /// Blah > >====== ANGRY FLAME STARTS HERE! ======= > > [...much condemnation about stealing...] >YOU ARE A SLIMY, LUMP OF BILE-RIDDEN >EXCREMENT WHO SHOULD BE LOCKED AWAY WITH THE WORST REFUSE OF HUMANITY! He's already in comp.sys.amiga, isn't he? B{) >I HOPE >YOUR BOSS FINDS OUT ABOUT YOUR LITTLE PILFERING PROJECT AND HAS YOU LOCKED UP. >I AM TEMPTED TO REPORT YOU TO THE NY STATE POLICE AND THE FBI AND ASK THEM TO >INVESTIGATE YOU BASED UPON YOUR PUBLIC ADMISSION (reprinted above). And they'll say: "Prove it." >I FOR ONE WILL *NEVER* PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM Pi-Rho America, Nor will I sell >or allow to be sold to you any of my products. Should it *EVER* come to my >attention that your company has sold one of my products I will take great >pleasure in seeing you and your company dragged through the courts and prosecuted! > And they'll say: "Prove it." Just like so many people, you've had a bad day, maybe a little constipation, a slight headache or some such thing. Suddenly, you catch a rumour that his company has sold one of your products! Get the lawyers! Call the courts! Where's the FBI?! I'd recommend for the sake of the legal system that you pause to see if the rumour is first true. If so, then see if anything was copied or sold illegally. *THEN* prosecute. In that order. >I call upon all CSA readers to boycott your company and any products or services >it produces. This kind of blatant irresponsibility on the part of people like >yourself cannot be tolerated. Slime like you should be locked up! And I say: "Prove it." I'm not boycotting anyone without sufficient proof that an event has occurred which deserves boycotting. Even then, I'll make my own decision on whether or not to boycot, thank you. >I don't like you! Now *there*'s a revelation! >I urge everyone who reads this to mail a request to the postmaster at >pawl.rpi.edu (whose address is: usenet@rpi.edu) to have your login >canceled or, at least, your USENET privaleges revoked. Why? Will taking away one's USENET privileges suddenly cause a wave of enlightenment to spread across the continent, ushering us into a new age of peace and prosperity? I don't quite see the relationship there... Will it change Robert's position? Not likely. > You are a >stinking thief! You are publicly advocating theft! You break the >law and urge others to break the law; you should be locked up! I didn't notice any place where he advocated breaking the law. >(FLAME OFF!) >-- >- Andrew R. Scholnick @ Corp. for Open Systems, McLean, VA -- andrews@cos.com Well, I can't say agree with Robert's position, but Andrew's little tirade has done little more than muddy the issue by starting a personal vendetta against a person I would wager he's never met, had any business dealings with or even corresponded with before. And before I start getting all kinds of stupid accusations ("How can you defend a self-declared thief?!") which I know will come (probably starting with Andrew), let me throw this item into the wind: Prove to me that Robert wrote the original article. Then prove to me that he spoke the truth with his hand on the Bible before witnesses. His original article was just something which appeared on our terminals; it is NOT an affidavit. How do you know I didn't fake it? Prove to me a crime has been committed. P.S. to Andrew: My home number is listed, along with my address. Send the cops after *me* if you think you can. =============================================================================== __ __ Brian A. Jarvis, / ) ...jtsv16!brian / ) J.T.S. Computer Systems Ltd., /--< __ o __. ____ /--/ Downsview, Ontario /___/_/ (_<_(_/|_/ / <_ / ( o My dog, Goof, still says "Hi!" ===============================================================================