Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!POSTGRES.BERKELEY.EDU!dillon From: dillon@POSTGRES.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: LF vs CR LF (was Re: DME and vanishing text) Message-ID: <8908250325.AA28433@postgres.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 25 Aug 89 03:25:23 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 24 :How about using CR LF's? One seriously braindamaged (in my opInion) 'feature' :of AmigashmnOS is that it uses LF's for end of lines. This creates lots :of problems when I'm taking my textfiles to IBM's and other machines. : :Why couldn't they have done it proper? Lf is a line feed! and CR is a :carriage return. It's a pain when programs start sticking out LF's :in the middle of lines. Such programs usualy crap out on my terminal :(he who lives without a terminal for editing is not alive). HA! That really strikes me funny. Do you know what kind of @!#$ crap one has to go through with 'cooked' and 'raw' modes on IBM (pc) files? Yes, that's right, on file descriptors, implemented at the DOS level. It screws up everything. Do you know that the default for IBM-PC *DEVICE DRIVERS* is 'cooked' ?? You need to do an ioctl to fix it. CR LF is an old standard ... very very very old. LF alone has been around for many many years and is the new standard. It is much easier to deal with a single line terminator character than a pair. In anycase, your 'pain' probably comes from your upbringing. I use mainly UNIX boxes which all use a single LF as a line terminator. -Matt