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From: davek@hp-lsd.COS.HP.COM (Dave Kumpf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Need help with DN300 station
Message-ID: <11360001@hp-lsd.COS.HP.COM>
Date: 26 Aug 89 16:31:54 GMT
Organization: HP Logic Systems Division - ColoSpgs, CO
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I recently acquired a DN-330 (says DN300-3MB on back, 68020 CPU + 68881 
inside) at a surplus sale.  With it, I got a SMSD-70M disk (no floppy 
drive) and most of the Aegis 9.2.3 distribution and manuals.  I'd like to 
get this system running, so I have a few questions:

1) I'm short a couple disks on the 9.2.3 Aegis distribution.  Anyone have
spares?

2) Does anyone have hardware and service manuals for the above stuff?  I
got mostly user's guides, software installation and some programming reference
stuff.

3) The disk I got contains the hard drive only, not the floppy. I know I can
buy 8" drives from surplus houses; the question is, which brand/model?  Is
the hardware to drive the floppy built in to the unit? (I'd rather not be
a floppy controller designer ...)  What cable do I need?

4) Finally, when I hook my disk up, the Apollo turns on OK. (although Ring test
fails -- presumably because there's no net connection -- what do I use for
terminators? (50 ohm terminators?)).  If I then execute:

>RE
>
MD2x ..............
>EX AEGIS

(i.e. the Aegis distribution is apparently already on the disk)

The Kernel message for Aegis is then printed at the top of the screen.  After
a long time, there is a message that the station address doesn't match the
one on the boot volume; it asks if I want to proceed.  I type yes; I haven't
waited long enough to find out if anything else happens.  Given that there
is a 68020 in the box, I can't imagine that this unit takes longer to boot
than a Xerox NS8000 server (40+ minutes ...).  Any ideas?
(if it helps, ex of some of the other files, such as CPT1, etc, SALVOL seem
to work OK.)

5) What kind of mouse does this unit use?  It looks like the keyboard has
a 9-pin serial port for a mouse: Logitech? Mouse Systems? Microsoft?

6) Now for the wish list:

Is there an X11 port for this unit?  Do I want to run it in only 3 MB or
will it be a hog?

Does anyone have a copy of Interleaf for this unit that they would give up
cheap? (WPS would be OK, TPS better)

Where can I find more general information on Apollos?  (I realize that this
is an older machine, but somewhere there's got to be data ...)

(Sorry if these questions seem lame, but I have no prior experience with
Apollo, just HP9000/HP-UX and PCs.  Right now, I'm lost trying to figure
out what's going on with Apollo's OS.  What is it really called: Aegis? 
Domain_OS?  Is it now really UN*X (in SR10)? ????)

Thanks.

Dave Kumpf
hplabs!hp-lsd!davek
davek%hp-lsd@hplabs.hp.com

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