Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ginosko!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!pro-sol.cts.com!mdavis From: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: New IIgs PRESS RELEASE!!! Message-ID: <8908221819.AA18294@trout.nosc.mil> Date: 22 Aug 89 15:15:05 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 45 Network Comment: to #10165 by att!mtuxo!mtgzz!drutx!dvac@ucbvax.berkeley.edu Dan Vachon (att!drutx!dvac) wrote: > where do the current //gs owners get left...in the cold. While I'm not happy about Apple's decision to provide no motherboard update for existing IIGS owners (short of having the customer scrap his old one and buy a brand new one with no discount), I don't really believe that existing IIGS owners are left in the cold. We aren't. The reason there was such a major climate difference between the II+ owner's world and that of the new IIe owner's environment is simply due to the significant differences in hardware between the two machines: a standardized, built-in 80 column display with every machine, standardized method of accessing an extra bank of RAM, a real keyboard with lowercase, and updated ROMs, a 65C02 CPU, and new video ROM with mousetext. The ROM 3 IIGS doesn't offer that kind of "lock out" because of hardware enhancements. I doubt if the majority of ROM 3 IIGS owners will ever use "sticky keys", or require a CDA menu protection feature. Everything else that the ROM 3 machine can do, earlier machines will do just as well. The difference being that ROM 3 means faster booting time (since more toolsets are in ROM), but that same new ROM code can be loaded in and patched into older systems at boot time. You get the same updated toolsets, only they come in from disk. The other ROM 3 features are just "niceties". Being able to work with AppleTalk in slot 1 or 2 without killing slot 7 is "nice", but that doesn't mean you can't use AppleTalk on an older machine. Being able to use slot 4 for your own peripheral card and still have mouse control is nice, but you can still use the mouse on older machines. (Actually, if this has been stated, fine -- but wouldn't a patched Miscellaneous Toolset that reads the mouse button and X/Y deltas directly from the $E0C0xx space offer the same features as the ROM 3 machine? Matt? Richard?) So we're not left in the cold, really. We just don't live in as warm a climate as ROM 3 owners. --Morgan Davis UUCP: crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis ProLine: mdavis@pro-sol ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis@nosc.mil MCI Mail: 137-6036 INET: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com ALPE|BIX: mdavis