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From: covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PD applications on GENIE / EMPIRE Version 3.0 for the ST.
Summary: Where to get PD Software
Message-ID: <4533f341.14a1f@force.UUCP>
Date: 23 Aug 89 15:49:36 GMT
References: <0619801174@uwovax.uwo.ca>
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In article <0619801174@uwovax.uwo.ca>, CCSCHR@UWOCC1.uwo.ca (Chuck Reid) writes:
> 
> I do not have access to these services do to my limited budget (if I
> were to subscribe, I'm sure I would blow my budget many times over)!
> The fact that I live in the frozen north of Canada doesn't help matters
> either (these services are not particularly easy to get to from up here
> unless one endorses one's paycheck over to the phone company in its
> entirety).
>  
> If some gracious GENIE user had it in their heart to do the ATARI
> community at large a great service then they might take it upon
> themselves to periodically suck up the best from GENIE and input these
> applications to the more worldly available servers/archives often
> mentioned in this digest. The two servers I use personally are:
> TERMINATOR and PANARTHEA. These are both excellent sources for a
> non-IP user like me with EMAIL access and no anon-FTP abilities.
>  

	First, I am not sure if the USENET network would like being clogged with
megabytes of pd pictures and such from GEnie. I susbscribe to GEnie and most of
the files on GEnie are demos of new fonts for Calamus, GDOS, and PageStream, and
pictures. Other files are archives of the various message bases. Sure there are
pd games and other programs but they seldom (if ever) include source code. And I 
think that USENET's main purpose is to disseminate source code and not pd hacks.

	Furthermore, all of the stuff on GEnie can be had from various resellers
of pd software. the magazine CURRENT NOTES contains an excellent library, updated
monthly, of the latest ST, MAC, and IBM pd software that runs on the Atari ST.
So, you can buy a complete 800K disk for less then $4.00 (US of course).

	Therefore, I see no need for filling the network with pd programs that are
readily available either from GEnie, Compuserve or a pd disk reseller. Now, I would
like to see more source code posted for the ST though!!! We can all use more sample
code to read when otherwise bored!!

	On the other hand, some programs appear on USENET before anywhere else. I
think the German AMCGDOS is one such program. So, some programs are probably welcome.
I think that this is something that needs more discussion.

Richard (Hungry for more C food!!) Covert