Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!mrsvr.UUCP!shoreland.uucp!hallett From: hallett@shoreland.uucp (Jeff Hallett x4-6328) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Allegro Common Lisp licensing fees Message-ID: <939@mrsvr.UUCP> Date: 29 Aug 89 18:36:11 GMT References: <4872@merlin.usc.edu> Sender: news@mrsvr.UUCP Reply-To: hallett@shoreland.UUCP (Jeff Hallett x4-6328) Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee, WI Lines: 39 In article alms@brazil.cambridge.apple.com (Andrew L. M. Shalit) writes: > > Now that Apple distributes Allegro Common Lisp, and includes the stand-alone > application generator, are there any licensing fees involved when > distributing applications created by it? > >The licensing is similar to MacApp. I believe the cost is $100 per >year. This gives you the right to distribute as many copies of as >many applications as you like. Note that the applications do -not- >include the compiler. If you need to include the compiler, then >you need to be a VAR, with more complicated contracts and terms. Ok, this may be a dumb question, but, how are they gonna know? *Shields Up! Lock Phasers On Target! All Banks, FIRE!* Isn't this really kinda ridiculous? Apple wants people to write software for the Macintosh, but they charge people liscensing fees to use their compilers and skeletons. Also, APDA was a great source of help until Apple took it over and began raping everyone on the price of the coding tools/examples. Seems to me that Apple really owes a lot of thanks to the haquer-extraordinaires that wrote PD/Shareware stuff for helping get the Mac off the ground. So this is the thanks they get? It kinda bothers me that Apple, which started as a 2-bit bunch of hackers, has really flipped 180 degrees to the point where they'd charge people for breathing the air in Cupertino if they could. For cryin' out loud, Apple, cut the non-corporate-deep-pocket, non-profit, programmin'-for-the-fun-of-it people some slack, will ya? *Evasive Maneuvers, execute!* -- Jeffrey A. Hallett, PET Software Engineering GE Medical Systems, W641, PO Box 414 Milwaukee, WI 53201 (414) 548-5173 : EMAIL - hallett@positron.gemed.ge.com