Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!claris!peirce From: peirce@claris.com (Michael Peirce) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: MacApp (was Re: 32-bit OS) Message-ID: <10513@claris.com> Date: 24 Aug 89 01:35:54 GMT References: <22321@andante.UUCP> <1989Aug19.221033.2241@geology.wisc.edu> <8352@hoptoad.uucp> <34184@apple.Apple.COM> <8365@hoptoad.uucp> <10505@claris.com> <10612@fluke.COM> Reply-To: peirce@claris.com (Michael Peirce) Organization: Claris Corporation, Santa Clara CA Lines: 37 In article <10612@fluke.COM> mce@tc.fluke.COM (Brian McElhinney) writes: >In article <10505@claris.com> peirce@claris.com (Michael Peirce) writes: >>But, but, but.. MacApp *is* catching on. Look around. There are lots >>of NEW software projects using MacApp (people revving old stuff doesn't >>count). > >You overlook one of the best kinds of software development: evolutionary. A >person, or project team, with "old stuff" has a lot of learning and experience >invested in code that can be re-used for "NEW software". Still, I would argue >that the benefits of an object oriented language would most often out weigh >re-using older code. > When using MacApp I still reuse LOTS of old code (I have a MassMicro catridge filled with old code). I don't reuse the event loop or other framework parts of the code, but lots of code snippits that do various things. >I thought MacApp might be manna from heaven when it first came out. It was >certainly what the 1984 hype claimed the Toolbox to be. Experience with MPW >(slow) and the MPW linker (slow *and* buggy) quickly changed my mind. > >Brian McElhinney >mce@tc.fluke.com MacApp/MPW is still slower than Think's products, but it is getting better. MacApp 1.0b9 improved MABuild quite a bit (THANKS!) and using Jasik's patch link can make turn around time very fast. If you haven't looked at MacApp lately, it might be worth checking it out again... Claris Corp. | Michael R. Peirce -------------+-------------------------------------- | 5201 Patrick Henry Drive MS-C4 | Box 58168 | Santa Clara, CA 95051-8168 | (408) 987-7319 | AppleLink: peirce1 | Internet: peirce@claris.com | uucp: {ames,decwrl,apple,sun}!claris!peirce