Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!usc!henry.jpl.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!zardoz!mti!jarthur!dhosek From: dhosek@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Donald Hosek) Newsgroups: comp.text Subject: Re: Licensing fees for Tex?! Message-ID: <1729@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Date: 27 Aug 89 05:19:59 GMT References: <8210007@hp-lsd.HP.COM> Reply-To: dhosek@jarthur.UUCP (Donald Hosek) Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA Lines: 45 In article <8210007@hp-lsd.HP.COM> davek@hp-lsd.HP.COM (Dave Kumpf) writes: >I was reading an old Seybold Report last night and encountered the following >statement: > >"Knuth's source code for Tex has been published by Addison-Wesley (Reading, >MA) and can be licensed for commercial purposes at nominal cost from the >American Mathematical Society (Long Island, NY)." > >(The Seybold Report on Desktop Publishing, April 4, 1988, p. 12) > >Yet the copyright notice on TeX:The Program says that Knuth has placed the >program TeX into the public domain, and that the reader is free to use the >algorithms in his own code. Further reading indicates that only programs >which conform exactly (other than system dependencies) to the published >algorithms may be called TeX. There is no mention of licensing requirements >or fees for any purpose, including commercial use. > >What's the real story? Are the TeX algorithms in the public domain only >if the use is non-commercial? Why doesn't the copyright notice in TeX:The >Program say that? What would really hold in court? > People can use TeX for whatever they like without paying any license fee. I have no idea where the Seybold report got their information but I can't think of any possible interpretation of that statement which reflects the truth. A couple of examples: (1) many commercial installations use TeX for in-house reports and their own publications--they pay no license fee; (2) numerous publishers use TeX for producing their hardcopy and also pay no license fee; (3) there are numerous commercial versions of TeX (e.g., pcTeX, TurboTeX, Textures, Northlake Software's VMS TeX, $\mu$-TeX, CTeX, The Arbortext TeX distributions, AmigaTeX, ST TeX, and probably others which have escaped my recall) which are distributed without paying any license fee as well as at least one TeX-like program (VAX DOCUMENT's back end) which is based on the code. I have however, just realized the source of the confusion. The AmS-TeX macros are owned by the American Math Society and to use those, one must pay a license fee if the use is commercial (take a look at the \everyjob message sometime). This, most likely is the source of the confusion. -dh P.S. keep your eyes peeled for news of TeX 3.0 and MF 2.0