Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!husc6!bu-cs!madd From: madd@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Jim Frost) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: PASSWORD GUESSING Message-ID: <36830@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Date: 21 Aug 89 01:46:49 GMT References: <1919@aucs.UUCP> <737@rwing.UUCP> <1043@accuvax.nwu.edu> <3532@internal.Apple.COM> <3126@rti.UUCP> <24888@prls.UUCP> Reply-To: madd@buit15.bu.edu (Jim Frost) Followup-To: comp.unix.wizards Organization: Boston University Distributed Systems Group Lines: 24 In article <24888@prls.UUCP> gordon@prls.UUCP (Gordon Vickers) writes: | The advice I see most often, and use myself is to simply pick | two unrelated words that are seperated by a symbol, with the entire | password being seven or eight charectors in length. Care to figure | what the odds are of a hacker breaking it ? Sure. Very good if the hacker has (exclusive) access to a good parallel machine, or access to several PC's and a good crypt() implementation. One of the problems of the UNIX password scheme is that it believes that you don't have 50+ mips of processing power and a reasonably efficient crypt(). (In fact I know someone who did a fairly complete scan of 6 letter passwords using heavy parallelism; this is likely to become more common as machines get faster.) Since there are a variety of simple ways to get around this problem which have been discussed in full on this and other newsgroups, I won't go into it. Just remember that machine speed is rising quick enough for brute-force to be effective. jim frost software tool & die madd@std.com