Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wasatch!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!hplabs!otter!grg From: grg@otter.hpl.hp.com (Gerd Groos) Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms Subject: Re: C_Talk review and final review if CommonView C++. Message-ID: <10960009@otter.hpl.hp.com> Date: 25 Aug 89 16:58:32 GMT References: <5258@umd5.umd.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK. Lines: 28 In your "CommonView review", you say 1. "I found it to be mostly broken." 2. "The class library is really bad" 3. "The examples won't hold water." 4. "[No improvements] will happen." 5. You don't like C++ (thought you posted a note saying you would a while ago?) 4. is a speculation. 5. is your opinion - nobody is forced to use a certain programming language Would you mind translating "mostly broken", "bad", "hold water" into more technical terms? I just don't understand what you are saying... From my experience I think it's quite usable. Maybe I just didn't notice it didn't work? Some things I would like to know about C_Talk: - How fast are C_Talk programs compared to C++ programs - Does C_Talk produce MS Window applications (like CommonView) - If yes, are you limited to the subset of MS Window functions implemented in C_Talk or is there a way of accessing the others? - What makes C_Talks window class library better than CommonViews? Gerd.