Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!uw-entropy!mica!charlie From: charlie@mica.stat.washington.edu (Charlie Geyer) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions Subject: Re: To flame, or not to flame... Message-ID: <2203@uw-entropy.ms.washington.edu> Date: 21 Aug 89 19:20:29 GMT References: <20393@sequent.UUCP> <1584@ns.network.com> Sender: news@uw-entropy.ms.washington.edu Reply-To: charlie@mica.stat.washington.edu (Charlie Geyer) Organization: UW Statistics, Seattle Lines: 45 Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: In article <1584@ns.network.com> logajan@ns.network.com (John Logajan) writes: > How many times I have seen Net Gods flame and belittle -- and then > sanctimoniously call to Netiquette as their sacred badge of honor. > > It does no good to get in a flame fest with these guys, because they > truely believe they hold the moral high ground -- and anything is justified > in defense of their positions. No those are not the real Net Gods, who are mostly very polite. Those are the Net Bozos, who sometimes pose as Net Gods to fool you. For the benefit of new users, I post the following advice on how to react to being flamed on the net. (1) Think before you post. Read your article carefully and make sure it makes sense and is spelled right. Do not ever post to a group that you haven't read for at least a week so you can be sure that your question was not answered yesterday. This will save you from lots of flames. (2) Most flames have a point. The poster may be rude, but the point is correct, for example when the flamer says RTFM and the answer actually is in the manual. If so, just let it drop. You got your answer and a lesson, if not a polite one. (3) Of the pointless flames, most are from well known flamers who everyone knows are bozos. Don't even bother to reply. They have been flamed by much more experienced hands than you, and it has never done any good. Just every few days or so, they get an urge to flame someone. This time it was you. It doesn't mean anything. This is another reason to read a newsgroup for at least a week before posting. You get to know the bozos. (4) This leaves a very small fraction of flames where the flamer has a point but not a very good one and some argument is worth while. In that case, wait until you have completely cooled off, compose a completely logical and polite response in the best writing style you are capable of that will explain to the rest of the net why you are right and the flamer is wrong. Do this once. Let the flamer have the last word immediately. He or she will get it eventually anyway. Do not attempt to convince the flamer. You will not be successful and will look foolish in the attempt. Hope this helps.