Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!turpin From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: What's the Why and How of Mosquito Bites? Summary: The nature of epidemiological studies. Message-ID: <6733@cs.utexas.edu> Date: 21 Aug 89 20:21:58 GMT References: <5399@mtgzy.att.com> <4948@tank.uchicago.edu> <9263@chinet.chi.il.us> <9297@chinet.chi.il.us> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 72 ARF says: > Mosquito transmission does not show up in epidemiological > studies because of the absurdity of asking every AIDS > victim: "Have you ever been bitten by a mosquito?" Which shows that ARF understands very little about epidemiology. While individual case histories are very important, many questions can be answered by studying evidence of a more statistical nature. What is the age distribution of those infected? In what regions is the disease most prevalent? Does infection incidence vary with season? What socio-economic factors correlate with infection? How do these factors correlate with exposure to possible vectors? When statistics of these kinds are combined with information from case histories, it is possible to learn a lot about the nature of transmission of a disease. A mosquito vectored disease displays particular statistical patterns in these areas. These patterns will show up even if it is a minor mode of transmission. If such patterns don't show up at all, it's because mosquito transmission is extremely rare. One doesn't have to ask people "Have you ever been bitten by a striped mosquito" in order to find out that a disease is transmitted by a particular kind of mosquito. As I previously noted, such knowledge, like the evidence, is statistical in nature. No one can prove that mosquito transmission of HIV is impossible or has never happened. Of course, the same can be said for syphillis. But if it occurs, it is so rare that the epidemiological evidence does not show it. Again, the "Scientific American" issue on AIDS had an article on its epidemiology with references to various studies, and these references will themselves have references. If you want to study this matter in depth, you can find out precisely what research has been done and by whom and how thoroughly, but don't expect people on the net to do your library work for you. Maybe the epidemiological research is sloppy or insufficient, and you would be doing us all a favor by doing more, better. Go to it. We would all welcome better, surer knowledge on this disease. If mosquito transmission of HIV is rare, we will never know just how improbable it is. To know this, one would have to let a cloud of mosquitos take partial meals from a group of people who are HIV positive, transfer the mosquitos into an auditorium in which there were a hundred thousand people without HIV exposure, have these subjects slap the mosquitos that bit them, track them for several months to see who seroconverted, and make sure that those who did were not exposed by other means. (If none seroconverted from slapping mosquitos, that still doesn't mean it is impossible. Perhaps if one used a million subjects ...) Even excluding ethical considerations, such an experiment is clearly impractical, and the results would not be very helpful. What, pray tell, would you do with a fact like "If an anopholes g. takes a partial meal from an HIV positive person and within ten minutes bites an HIV negative subject who then slaps the mosquito and smears its blood over the subject's skin and fails to wash it away for the next half hour, then the subject's odds of seroconverting is .00000167"? Like I said before, if the risk worries you, don't slap that mosquito. Personally, when I'm out and about I worry much more about water moccasins. If I were to worry about mosquito vectored diseases, it would be dengue fever (of which we had a few cases in Texas some years ago) and equine encephalitis. You don't have to slap that mosquito to get these, and they may kill you quicker to boot! Are you any relation to ALF? You two seem to think on the same wavelength. Russell