Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!ems From: ems@Apple.COM (Mike Smith) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Sound Amplification by Combustion Keywords: singing flames Message-ID: <3738@internal.Apple.COM> Date: 21 Aug 89 20:16:26 GMT References: <11652@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> <1625@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Distribution: usa Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA Lines: 43 In article <1625@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> morris@jade.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Mike Morris) writes: >(Bobby Bodenheimer) writes: >> >> I'm new to this newsgroup, but someone told me there was a >> discussion here a few months ago about amplifying sound by >> combustion or singing flames or something like this. >In 1969 I was touring Cal Poly Pomona during a science fair, and an exhibit >there was a "singing flame". The student told me the original info was from >a old Popular Electronics or Radio Electronics. > >The flame has excellent high frequency response, but a lousy low end. >It must be "doped" with some kind of a glass rod. >Sorry, that's all I remember. I read the original article in Popular Whatever in the late '60s. What I remember: Frequency response depended on flame size. Larger flame, better bass. Smaller flame, better highs, but poor bass. The flame needed to have it's conductivity enhanced by adding ions (small amount of plain table salt at the bottom electrode) so that the amplifier voltage could be kept down. To drive it required a relatively high voltage output amp (but not outragiously so) and I think it had a high impedance. Basic structure is a gas flame with two electrodes in it. One at the top, the other at the bottom. Each electrod is hooked to one wire from the amplifier. A small(!) amount of table salt solution was used on a rod at the bottom of the flame to add sodium ions to enhance conductivity. The technology was, well, trivial. No magic. No special gimics or magic electrods or mystical dopants. Any electrod that wouldn't melt and most any salt would work. The bigest problem was eliminating the 'hiss' from the flame... -- E. Michael Smith ems@apple.COM 'If you can dream it, you can do it' Walt Disney This is the obligatory disclaimer of everything. (Including but not limited to: typos, spelling, diction, logic, and nuclear war)