Xref: utzoo misc.consumers.house:7250 sci.electronics:7543 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tank!ncar!unmvax!ogccse!blake!uw-beaver!tektronix!zephyr.ens.tek.com!orca!nevermore!alanj From: alanj@nevermore.WV.TEK.COM (Alan Jeddeloh;685-2991;61-201;292-9740;orca) Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Grounding old electrics Keywords: Electrical, Ground, House, Hints Message-ID: <4324@orca.WV.TEK.COM> Date: 24 Aug 89 17:25:43 GMT References: <2171@netcom.UUCP> <5057@teklds.CAE.TEK.COM> <26924@amdcad.AMD.COM> <12073@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> <1619@unccvax.UUCP> Sender: nobody@orca.WV.TEK.COM Reply-To: alanj@nevermore.WV.TEK.COM (Alan Jeddeloh) Followup-To: misc.consumers.house Distribution: misc Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville, OR Lines: 22 It is not necessary to run the grounding conductor all the way back to the load center. The NEC allows that, when doing "old work" (modifications to an existing installation), the box may be grounded by running a separate grounding conductor to the nearest good ground. This can be another box that is properly grounded, a metal *cold* water pipe, metal building frame, conductor buried in the foundation, separate ground rod, etc., etc., etc. Waste (sewer) pipes, gas pipes, plastic(!) water pipes are not considered good grounds (the NEC does allow gas pipes, but most local codes forbid them. In this area (Portland, OR) new gas installations use plastic gas pipes to run to the house, so the gas pip in the hose is not a good ground, anyway.) The new grounding conductor must not be less than #12 and at least some (forget which) percentage of the size of the hot/neutral pair. The grounding conductor must be properly protected from damage. IT IS NOT LEGAL OR SAFE TO CONNECT THE NEUTRAL TO THE GROUND!!!! -Alan Jeddeloh (503) 685-2991 Tektronix ITD Networking; D/S 61-201; PO Box 1000; Wilsonville, OR 97070 {decvax|ucbvax}!tektronix!orca!alanj -or- alanj@orca.wv.tek.com This space available for Bush's first blunder.