Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ames!sun-barr!apple!vsi1!wyse!mips!vaso From: vaso@mips.COM (Vaso Bovan) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Electronic sweeping and debugging equiptments Summary: posturing Message-ID: <26476@quacky.mips.COM> Date: 29 Aug 89 19:49:44 GMT References: <26234@quacky.mips.COM> <818@xroads.UUCP> Reply-To: vaso@mips.COM (Vaso Bovan) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 28 In article <818@xroads.UUCP> wiz@xroads.UUCP (Mike Carter) writes: > >RE: Vaso Bovan's article on Chinese democracy. > >but if we are to blame the essence of the Chinese democratic movemnet.. >we should aslo blame ourselves . We had as much power to change the >political spectrum as did the students. We sat in the room of >laurel resting watching the events take place over an electron tube.. >they lived it. It's the height of supreme ignorance to point the >finger at the Chinese students and proclaim stupidity. >It's also the epitome of a sycophant's blathering if we consider >the democratic movement has been set-back in any degree in China. > There's been a great deal of posturing in the West on this problem, which hasn't helped the situation in China at all. The above is yet another example. I got a dozen or so replies to my original posting, most of them of the outraged breast-beating kind. The best, most thoughtful responses came from (apparently) Chinese students, who did a good job of commenting on opportunities gained and lost in China as a result of this fiasco. Concerning the posting of "political" memos on sci.electronics: they clearly are inappropriate. What strikes me, though is the hypocrisy. What many people mean when they say they don't want "politics" in sci.electronics, is that they merely object to political statements with which they disagree. In the first instance, the request for comments on bug-tracing techniques need not have been prefaced by a call to "help our struggling fellow student-democrats in China."