Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!dgharriss From: dgharriss@watmath.waterloo.edu (Dermot G. Harriss) Newsgroups: can.general Subject: Re: Attikamek-Montagnais Protest PCB Plan Message-ID: <29027@watmath.waterloo.edu> Date: 10 Sep 89 23:26:34 GMT References: <2324@yunccn.UUCP> <620791816.24086@telly.on.ca> <1989Sep5.173937.24977@utzoo.uucp> <8328@looking.on.ca> <28908@watmath.waterloo.edu> <261@van-bc.UUCP> <1989Sep6.141953.14830@tmsoft.uucp> Reply-To: dgharriss@watmath.waterloo.edu (Dermot G. Harriss) Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo Lines: 75 Somebody writes: > [PCBs] are massively carcinogenic on contact ... Others point out that PCBs such as are found diluted in typical transformer oil are only mildly toxic, have not been shown to be carcinogenic, & are likely dangerous only with prolonged internal exposure at relatively high concentrations. For that matter, the same can be said of oxygen - but we don't hear the pseudo-environmentalists and media clamouring for a ban, at least not yet. People just love to be scandalized, outraged, and even terrified by something all the time. The PCB business is just the latest environmental `fad concern' as it were. For their part, the media love nothing better than a good scare -- they feed on public hysteria, which feeds in turn on media hype, until both get their fill and tire of it. On the positive side, this positive feedback leads to a concentration of public attention on an issue, and consequently to intense and often effective pressure on government. On the negative side, between the naturally nervous, the well intentioned uninformed, and the band-wagoneers, some environmental, health & safety, & such like issues, receive public attention far out of proportion to their relative importance (as an ecologist or professional health & safety engineer, etc., might assign to them), while many critical problems are virtually ignored. The concerned public tends to burn up a lot of that useful anger in the most futile ways on the silliest of issues. This sort of thing -- the ill-informed rhetoric, the paranoia, the hysteria -- tends to contribute to the rather ambivalent regard in which the environemental & other `social consciosness' movements and their `long-haired' activists are held by the silent working majority. It's also a cause of considerable frustration for the sincere & well-informed environmentalists, environmental activists, & environmentally conscious. An uncle of mine, in his younger days in the field as a transmission line engineer with Ontario Hydro was once thoroughly soaked by PCB-laced oil when a transformer being installed sprang a leak. He said the oil tasted pretty bad. Certainly doesn't seem to have done him much any though. His comment on the PCB hysteria was that the public would gladly have a dozen people killed a year in transformer fires and spend millions in taxes & rate hikes to pay for transformer design changes, to exorcise the PCB demon - he considered this irrational and amusing, but then perhaps he is biased. As an example of how people seem to confuse the priorities, I recall that during the summer I worked in the health sciences division at AECL Chalk River Nuclear Labs, there was considerable environmentalist and media rhetoric concerning the transportation by truck between the U.S. and Canada of certain hazardous radioactive wastes (an issue undeniably worthy of the closest attention). At the same time, what was causing concern to division scientists were the increasingly high levels of Plutonium being detected in the Ottawa river at Ottawa, and serious quality-control problems in the medical products division of the AECL Chemical Company, such as (rumour had it) the delivery to hospitals of short-lived isotopes weeks and even months before the manditory pre-delivery bio-assays were completed. This sort of information was available to the public & press in annual & monthly reports (written up, mind you, in a form one might suspect contrived to be somewhat unapproachable by the lay public), but there wasn't a peep from the media. Perhaps the disparity between what frightens the public and what frightens the scientists isn't surprising. Is it a problem? -- Dermot