Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!eos!riacs!danforth From: danforth@riacs.edu (Douglas G. Danforth) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: step function Message-ID: <1667@hydra.riacs.edu> Date: 1 Sep 89 22:18:45 GMT Reply-To: danforth@hydra.riacs.edu.UUCP (Douglas G. Danforth) Organization: Research Institute for Advanced Computer Science Lines: 49 Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: : Step Function Summary: Bias and Basis Keywords: learning,generalization Tony Russo writes: > >No. You bring up a good point, because your argument is really, "What functions >shall we consider in the hypothesis space?" > >I can't tell you; this appears to be getting very deep. On the surface, >it seems that biases are !necessary! for learning anything at all. >If so, then the biases are probably hard-wired and not learned, since >they would have to be learned in terms of other biases, etc. > >Does this make sense to anyone else, or have I gone off the deep end? > > ~ tony ~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~ Tony Russo " Surrender to the void." ~ > ~ apr@cbnewsl.ATT.COM put disclaimer here ~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Two comments: (1) If you will allow me to modify your words, it is interesting that bias can also be looked upon as a "basis". By choosing a biased view of the world one does at least have a place to stand. If an organism has a collection of biased views then there is a possibility that the collection can "span" a space and act as a basis for representing any other biased view in that space. (2) In a deep way we are all limited by the sensory space in which we live. The representation of a function which spans a space larger than we are aware can only be approximated by functions within the smaller space. We are blind to that which we do not know. We know we don't know some things. However, there are things we don't know we don't know. Very humbling (see Fernando Flores and Terry Winograd's book, Computers and Cognition (??), sorry forgot the exact title). -------------------------------------- Doug Danforth danforth@riacs.edu --------------------------------------