Xref: utzoo comp.edu:2464 sci.edu:637 comp.cog-eng:1316 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!tank!arch_ems@gsbacd.uchicago.edu From: arch_ems@gsbacd.uchicago.edu Newsgroups: comp.edu,sci.edu,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: What to know Message-ID: <5266@tank.uchicago.edu> Date: 1 Sep 89 14:47:38 GMT Sender: news@tank.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago Graduate School of Business Lines: 89 >In article <56543@aerospace.AERO.ORG>, abbott@aerospace.aero.org (Russell J. Abbott) writes: >> In this world of instantly accessible information that we are >> constructing I'm beginning to wonder what one should actually bother to >> learn. That is, why know something when one can look it up using an >> information locator service? I also wonder what the difference is >> between knowing something and knowing where to find out about something. I think that it is interesting to note at this juncture the argument attributed to Socrates regarding books -- there was an philosphical opinion in Greek times that the reading and writing of books was a destructive practice -- it allowed people to stop relying entirely on their memories. It seems to me that there is a direct correlation between the book/ memory argument and the learning/information retrieval one. The acceptance of books as an information media did indeed allow people to stop relying entirely on their memories -- with the result being a vastly greater ability to 'manage ever larger amounts of information.' The notion of the specialty that one would have to learn emerged (at least in part) because the varying terminologies, massive numbers of books, and multiple information sources became too great for one individual to 'remember.' Thus we had to learn how to find things out in our individual specialties. Many lawyers have told me that the majority of law school is about learning how to look things up in a library. I think this phenomena is fairly wide spread. The advance of information retrieval systems will (initially) free people from narrow specialties since the capacity for knowing where to look for information will be vastly extended through artificial intelligence, expert systems, neural nets, or whatever your favorite retrieval system is. Information Retrieval might eliminate our need to learn alot of things that can mor easily be retrieved as necessary in the same way that the introduction of books allowed the Greeks to stop remembering a lot of things that could more easily be written. By the way, I have been writing 'book' when I meant to be writing 'writing' The text I had in mind in particular is Plato's Phaedrus where the story of the Egyptian god of learning presenting the Pharoh with the gift of writing is related. Of course there are many interesting transformations that the book had on our culture and my comments regarding specialization probably have more to do with the advent of the book. Putting aside the question of the historical reality of technological advances, an interesting model for the development of information technologies could be a psuedo-economic one: Stage 1 -- Verbal culture -- A limited amount of information primarly stories (entertainment) and crafts --as story-telling and crafts develop over time and peoples begin to settle into particular geographic areas it becomes increasingly desirable to keep written records-- Stage 2 -- Written culture -- Writing emerges as a valuable technology to store and convey the increasing amount of economic data, entertainment, and skills (sword making etc) --crafts people begin to gather in guilds, the sciences emerge as a way of furthering technical achievment, economic transactions become more complex -- in short an information explosion-- Stage 3 -- Publishing culture -- At first used to convey the text that everyone wanted (the Bible) soon the printing press was being used for everything -- to convey and store information. The book was popularized about fifty years after the printing press and fueled the growth of knowledge and accumulation of information. -- as in all of the above cases, the advance of a new technology was heralded by an increasing amount of information and then the new technology in turn fueled the growth of information... Stage 4 -- Electronic culture -- Instant access to exact infor- mation from an ever increasing pool of common data. It will soon become more important to have access to good information management tools than it will be to have expert knowledge of a particular narrow specialization. This too will change.. I wonder what technology awaits us out beyond information retrieval systems -- I'm sure that Guttenberg and Aldus could never have imagined a Sparcstation or Macintosh... *********************************************************** * Edward Shelton, Project Manager ----- * * ARCH Development Corporation / * * \ * * The University of Chicago | | | * * arch_ems@gsbacd.uchicago.edu | \ / | * * (312) 702-3706 (is this a smiley? -->) \ \-/ / * ***********************************************************