Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ukma!gatech!ncar!noao!arizona!mike From: mike@arizona.edu (Mike Coffin) Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: Two Fortran Standards Message-ID: <13833@megaron.arizona.edu> Date: 8 Sep 89 13:33:30 GMT References: <314@unmvax.unm.edu> Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson Lines: 26 From article <314@unmvax.unm.edu>, by brainerd@unmvax.unm.edu (Walt Brainerd): > ...In its current state, computer science departments avoid teaching > Fortran, preferring C or Pascal. In fact, use of Fortran is > intentionally and vigorously discouraged as its an ``ancient'' and > ``obsolete'' language. ... The 8X proposal addresses and > eliminates almost all grounds for the complaints of the computer > science priesthood. They might even be willing to teach 8X rather > than trying to assure the extinction of Fortran. How so? I'm not a member of the priesthood, but from what I've seen of the new standard, it's about the last language I would try to teach to a bunch of undergraduates. The movement in Computer Science seems to be towards smaller, more extensible languages. (Witness the rise of functional and object-oriented languages.) Fortran 8x is huge and monolithic. And, if the traffic on this network is any indication, it's not the easiest language to understand. I'm not putting it down --- you guys know what you need, and I'm in no position to contradict. But I don't think you should count on CS departments flocking to Fortran. -- Mike Coffin mike@arizona.edu Univ. of Ariz. Dept. of Comp. Sci. {allegra,cmcl2}!arizona!mike Tucson, AZ 85721 (602)621-2858