Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!udel!rochester!daemon From: miller@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Brad Miller) Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Symbolics co-processor board for the Sparcstation-1 ? Message-ID: <1989Sep6.205843.23261@cs.rochester.edu> Date: 6 Sep 89 20:58:43 GMT Sender: daemon@cs.rochester.edu (Old Scratch) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Department Lines: 25 In article <1989Sep6.000759.15274@cs.rochester.edu> miller@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Brad Miller) writes: >2) The Sparcstation-1 has NO bus whatsoever. Where would you plug an >embedded Ivory in? The serial port? :-) > No bus? This is going to come as a *big* surprise to an awful lot of people. I wonder where they've been connecting their color framebuffers... The SPARCstation 1 has a perfectly good bus. It's called the S-bus. There are three connectors inside the box for S-bus cards. These cards need to be roughly 3" by 5", so fitting a Lispm onto one would be a pretty impressive feat of engineering. Yep, I misspoke on this one; I just found out there is a proprietary bus for I/O devices. (Which of course one *could* treat the ivory as, but it would lose performance wise). I'm amazed; the physical dimensions of the Sparcstation don't look like it could handle anything of the sort... On it being proprietary; has Sun published it's specs yet? Anyway, as Hank points out, obviously existing technology would make a 3"x5" card hard to do, esp. since one would either have to have local 40bit memory, or a cache to allow the local processor to get 40bits doing 32bit fetches over the S-bus. I don't think it would fit but maybe next generation :-)