Xref: utzoo comp.lang.postscript:2813 comp.fonts:731 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!sun-barr!decwrl!adobe!greid From: greid@adobe.com (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.fonts Subject: Re: Are there any 'real' fonts available? Keywords: ligatures ditroff Message-ID: <1143@adobe.UUCP> Date: 3 Sep 89 14:56:47 GMT References: <761@ecrcvax.UUCP> <724@h-three.UUCP> Sender: news@adobe.COM Reply-To: greid@adobe.COM (Glenn Reid) Followup-To: comp.lang.postscript Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View Lines: 28 In article <724@h-three.UUCP> jimi@h-three.UUCP (jimi) writes: >In the preceding example, "affluent" should not contain an "fl" >ligature. Rather, it should contain an "ffl" ligature. >I've wondered why Abobe's otherwise skilled typeface designers >consider the "ff," "ffi," and "ffl" ligatures unnecessary. > >This isn't to praise Compugraphic, in particular, though their fonts >are very good, but to pick on Adobe's type designers, whose incomplete >f-ligature sets detract from their otherwise fine fonts. I'm curious >about why they made this decision. In the beginning, Adobe converted other peoples' type to PostScript form. These fonts did not have ffl or ffi ligatures in them (at least that is my understanding), so the PostScript fonts didn't. The original subject of the "any real fonts available?" question was exactly that: are there any Adobe fonts that do have ligatures? The answer is yes; the new Adobe fonts have what is called the "expert character set", which contains lots of goodies like small caps, alternates, old-style numbers, more ligatures, etc. Take a look at Adobe Garamond, for instance. Unfortunately, the discussion quickly degenerated into a discussion of 800 phone numbers and why they can't be accessed outside North America, so it may have gotten lost in the noise. Glenn Reid Adobe Systems