Xref: utzoo comp.mail.uucp:3477 news.sysadmin:2633 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!decwrl!decvax!zinn!ditka!kls From: kls@ditka.UUCP (Karl Swartz) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,news.sysadmin Subject: Caught in a virtual pinball machine Message-ID: <3897@ditka.UUCP> Date: 1 Sep 89 06:38:03 GMT Reply-To: kls@ditka.UUCP (Karl Swartz) Organization: Inaction Central, Los Alamos, New Mexico Lines: 260 Over the past month or so a handful of messages have ended up in the uucp mailbox here on ditka, for reasons which have been quite elusive to me. Attached are the latest two examples. All seem to have bounced several times before finally finding a home here, such that it is. All seem to have bounced off of rt1 early along the way, for reasons which also elude me. All have involved sundc.East.Sun.COM early in the process, and most have also involved csed-60 or another csed-# machine. In the following examples, the first or second bounce was at rt1, with a failed uux. This is rather puzzling since rt1 (an IBM RT running AIX 2.2.1) has a sendmail.cf configured to know who it can uux to, and knows to pass anything else to ditka for routing. When I tried the failed addresses in sendmail's test mode it knew to pass them on to ditka and not to try uux as it did for the messages in question. Regardless of this, I see no reason why either of the messages should have passed thru ditka or rt1 at all, in particular the second message which appears to have been failed mail to a local user. Maybe a mailing list gone wild? I have no idea. If anybody can shed any light on this I'd really appreciate it. *********************** *** failed mail #1 *** *********************** From uucp Thu Aug 31 22:39 MDT 1989 >From lll-winken!riacs!rutgers!sfgl.sfgl.fr!Mailer-Daemon Thu Aug 31 22:39:08 1989 remote from pacbell Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA24593; 31 Aug 89 22:39:08 MDT (Thu) Received: by lll-winken.llnl.gov (smail2.5) id AA12305; 31 Aug 89 14:03:02 PDT (Thu) Received: from rutgers.UUCP by icarus.riacs.edu (5.59/2.1G) id AA08269; Tue, 29 Aug 89 19:21:00 PDT Received: from ogccse.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.2/3.04) with UUCP id AA27445; Sun, 27 Aug 89 01:25:35 EDT Received: by cse.ogc.edu (5.61+OGC_1.5 (named)/OGC_6.1) id AA07948 ; Sat, 26 Aug 89 21:41:39 -0700 Received: by verdix.verdix.com (5.51/nomad-master-cf/v0.3/08-12-88) id AA27446; Sat, 26 Aug 89 21:24:26 PDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06960; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:52:17 PDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24709; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:50:32 PDT Received: by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB23389; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:19 EST Date: Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:19 EST From: riacs!rutgers!sfgl.sfgl.fr!Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Message-Id: <8908270048.AB23389@East.Sun.COM> To: Status: RO ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Connected to snail-swanbb: >>> RCPT To: <<< 554 ... Unknown domain : QueensU . CA : dalamb 554 ... Service unavailable ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from sundc.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23387; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:19 EST Received: from East.Sun.COM by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04617; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:52:51 EDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM (snail-swanbb.West.Sun.COM) by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23384; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:12 EST Received: from sun.Sun.COM (sun-bb) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24699; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:50:12 PDT Received: from verdix.UUCP by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06933; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:51:52 PDT Received: by verdix.verdix.com (5.51/nomad-master-cf/v0.3/08-12-88) id AA12093; Fri, 25 Aug 89 06:47:40 PDT Return-Path: Received: by vrdxhq.verdix.com (4.12/01-Aug-89) id AA14926; Fri, 25 Aug 89 09:46:20 edt Received: from uunet.UUCP by dgis.daitc.mil (5.61++/21-Aug-89) with UUCP id AA08752; Thu, 24 Aug 89 13:29:23 -0400 Received: from cs.utexas.edu by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA21808; Thu, 24 Aug 89 13:24:59 -0400 Posted-Date: 24 Aug 89 02:02:07 MDT (Thu) Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by cs.utexas.edu (5.59/1.39) id AA23579; Thu, 24 Aug 89 11:12:27 CDT Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Thu, 24 Aug 89 02:35:25 -0700 Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA20176; 24 Aug 89 02:05:12 MDT (Thu) Received: by rt1.lanl.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03/ks 06/22/89) id AA00163; Thu, 24 Aug 89 01:57:32 MDT Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA20116; 24 Aug 89 02:02:30 MDT (Thu) Date: 24 Aug 89 02:02:07 MDT (Thu) From: dgis!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ames.arc.nasa.gov!rt1!ditka.UUCP!MAILER-DAEMON@verdix.com Subject: failed mail To: ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!sundc!QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb!ditka@cs.utexas.edu Message-Id: <8908240202.AA20116@ditka.UUCP> ======= command failed ======= COMMAND: /usr/bin/uux -art1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!sundc!QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb!ditka -r - oids-8!rmail '(wheeler)' ======= standard error follows ======= bad system name: oids-8 uux failed ( 11 ) ======= text of message follows ======= >From rt1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!sundc!QUCDN.QueensU.CA:dalamb!ditka Received: by rt1.lanl.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03/ks 06/22/89) id AA00093; Thu, 24 Aug 89 01:49:43 MDT Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA19869; 24 Aug 89 01:50:41 MDT (Thu) Received: from snail.Sun.COM by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA00268; Tue, 22 Aug 89 22:43:34 PDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14114; Mon, 21 Aug 89 15:34:53 PDT Received: from sundc.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04792; Mon, 21 Aug 89 18:32:56 EST Received: from csed-1.UUCP by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13931; Mon, 21 Aug 89 18:37:23 EDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11659; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:27:34 EDT Received: from Central.Sun.COM (texsun-bb.Central.Sun.COM) by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01507; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:23:00 EST Received: from swrinde.UUCP by Central.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05987; Mon, 21 Aug 89 16:26:21 CDT Received: from QUCDN.QueensU.CA by swrinde.nde.swri.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA03295; Mon, 21 Aug 89 16:17:23 -0500 Received: from qusuntrc.qucis.queensu.ca by QUCDN.QueensU.CA (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with TCP; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:17:45 EDT Received: by qusuntrc.qucis.queensu.ca (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA12846; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:20:13 EDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:20:13 EDT From: rt1!sundc!Central!swrinde!qucis.queensu.ca!dalamb@sundc.East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <8908212120.AA12846@qusuntrc.qucis.queensu.ca> To: sun!sundc.East.Sun.COM!Central!sundc.East.Sun.COM!csed-1!oids-8!wheeler Subject: (deleted) *********************** *** failed mail #2 *** *********************** From uucp Thu Aug 31 22:39 MDT 1989 >From lll-winken!riacs!rutgers!sundc.east.sun.com!Mailer-Daemon Thu Aug 31 22:39:13 1989 remote from pacbell Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA24597; 31 Aug 89 22:39:13 MDT (Thu) Received: by lll-winken.llnl.gov (smail2.5) id AA12319; 31 Aug 89 14:03:19 PDT (Thu) Received: from rutgers.UUCP by icarus.riacs.edu (5.59/2.1G) id AA08278; Tue, 29 Aug 89 19:21:05 PDT Received: from ogccse.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.2/3.04) with UUCP id AA27450; Sun, 27 Aug 89 01:25:34 EDT Received: by cse.ogc.edu (5.61+OGC_1.5 (named)/OGC_6.1) id AA07955 ; Sat, 26 Aug 89 21:41:40 -0700 Received: by verdix.verdix.com (5.51/nomad-master-cf/v0.3/08-12-88) id AA27456; Sat, 26 Aug 89 21:24:45 PDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06981; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:52:31 PDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24716; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:50:45 PDT Received: from sundc.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23399; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:36 EST Received: by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB04629; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:53:05 EDT Date: Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:53:05 EDT From: riacs!rutgers!sundc.east.sun.com!Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Message-Id: <8908262353.AB04629@sundc.East.Sun.COM> To: Status: RO ----- Transcript of session follows ----- bad system name: csed-60 uux failed. code 68 550 ... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from East.Sun.COM by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04627; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:53:05 EDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM (snail-swanbb.West.Sun.COM) by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23390; Sat, 26 Aug 89 19:48:24 EST Received: from sun.Sun.COM (sun-bb) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24705; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:50:25 PDT Received: from verdix.UUCP by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06948; Sat, 26 Aug 89 16:52:06 PDT Received: by verdix.verdix.com (5.51/nomad-master-cf/v0.3/08-12-88) id AA12957; Fri, 25 Aug 89 08:44:53 PDT Return-Path: Received: by vrdxhq.verdix.com (4.12/01-Aug-89) id AA17199; Fri, 25 Aug 89 11:43:31 edt Received: from uunet.UUCP by dgis.daitc.mil (5.61++/21-Aug-89) with UUCP id AA08751; Thu, 24 Aug 89 13:29:14 -0400 Received: from cs.utexas.edu by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA21794; Thu, 24 Aug 89 13:24:53 -0400 Posted-Date: 24 Aug 89 01:57:18 MDT (Thu) Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by cs.utexas.edu (5.59/1.39) id AA23436; Thu, 24 Aug 89 11:12:17 CDT Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Thu, 24 Aug 89 02:34:24 -0700 Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA20141; 24 Aug 89 02:03:40 MDT (Thu) Received: by rt1.lanl.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03/ks 06/22/89) id AA00116; Thu, 24 Aug 89 02:52:47 EDT Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA19972; 24 Aug 89 01:57:35 MDT (Thu) Date: 24 Aug 89 01:57:18 MDT (Thu) From: dgis!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ames.arc.nasa.gov!rt1!ditka.UUCP!MAILER-DAEMON@verdix.com Subject: failed mail To: ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!csed-60!Mailer-Daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-Id: <8908240157.AA19972@ditka.UUCP> ======= command failed ======= COMMAND: /usr/bin/uux -art1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!csed-60!Mailer-Daemon -r - csed-1stoltz!rmail '(mohar)' ======= standard error follows ======= bad system name: csed-1stoltz uux failed ( 11 ) ======= text of message follows ======= >From rt1!ditka!pacbell!csed-1!sundc.East.Sun.COM!csed-60!Mailer-Daemon Received: by rt1.lanl.gov (AIX 2.1 2/4.03/ks 06/22/89) id AA00055; Thu, 24 Aug 89 01:44:08 MDT Received: by ditka.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA19798; 24 Aug 89 01:48:37 MDT (Thu) Received: from snail.Sun.COM by sun.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA28029; Mon, 21 Aug 89 14:39:34 PDT Received: from East.Sun.COM by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11542; Mon, 21 Aug 89 14:36:10 PDT Received: from sundc.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02055; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:33:20 EST Received: from csed-1.UUCP by sundc.East.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12004; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:37:47 EDT Received: from csed-60. by csed-1 (3.2/SMI-3.2) id AA28063; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:15:03 EDT Received: by csed-60. (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA00183; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:13:06 EDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:13:06 EDT From: rt1!csed-1!csed-60!Mailer-Daemon@sundc.East.Sun.COM (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <8908212113.AA00183@csed-60.> To: sun!sundc.Sun.COM!Postmaster ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 akin-60... User unknown 421 csed-33: Host csed-33 is down, will keep trying for 3 days ----- Message header follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by csed-60. (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA00181; Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:13:06 EDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 89 17:13:06 EDT From: akin (Bill Akin) Message-Id: <8908212113.AA00181@csed-60.> To: akin Subject: Testing Cc: akin-60 -- Karl Swartz |UUCP uunet!lll-winken!ames!hc!rt1!ditka!kls 1-505/667-7777 (work) |Internet kls@rt1.lanl.gov 1-505/672-3113 (home) |BIX kswartz "I never let my schooling get in the way of my education." (Twain)