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From: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry W. Kort)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: ATalk
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Date: 3 Sep 89 01:09:45 GMT
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In article <8909011929.AA02186@riscsm.scripps.edu..> jwk@SCRIPPS.EDU
("Two Sheds" Kupec) writes:

 > A Mac II running a clean System 6.0.3, and NCSA Telnet 2.3.
 > It was fine yesterday.  Telnet's "Show Network Numbers..." shows that
 > my Internet number is OK, I have an AppleTalk node, but- my AppleTalk
 > Net is 0 (should be 1).  LanRanger's echo command shows no problem, but
 > the strange thing is that the echo works with the Net # set to 0 or 1 
 > (same node #).  I can't ping the Mac from the Ethernet side.  
 > The chooser shows Appletalk is active- BUT doesn't show my 2 AppleTalk
 > zones.  

Your net numbers are established by the Kinetics Box, not by your
Mac.  Use the FastPath Manager to configure your K-Box with the
desired Zone Names and Net Numbers.  If you have multiple zones,
all K-Boxes must agree on the Zone Name and Net Number of the
Ethernet Zone.

If you have an EtherTalk card in your Mac, then you will have
a Control Panel Device called "Network" which lets you select
either AppleTalk or Ethernet.  If you select AppleTalk ("Built-In"),
you can still use the EtherTalk card with Telnet.  Your Telnet
Config.Sys file should specify the hardware you want to use
for Telnet's TCP/IP services.

 > I don't even get the AppleTalk Zone window in the Chooser.
  
That means your K-Box is down.

 > The software and external hardware are OK- I verified by
 > swapping CPU's and the replacement IIc worked as expected. 
 > I tried zapping PRAM to no avail.  I also toggled power a
 > few times and reconnected the PhoneNet.
  
It sounds to me like you are experiencing problems caused
by improper configuration of your K-Box.

 > It looks to me like I have a hardware problem in this
 > particular Mac II, but I'm real new to AppleTalk and
 > the FastPath4 but not networking in general. 

As you are discovering, modern day networking is not yet
plug and play.

 > Any tricks of the trade that I can try to get this thing to
 > recognize that it's on the net besides the usual "power it off,
 > reconnect, power it on"?
  
If you change your network configuration, you may need to reboot.

 > Are there any DA's that will report the AppleTalk Net & Node numbers?
  
None that I know of.  But you can use the Mac application programs
such as Inter-Poll or Lan Ranger.

--Barry Kort
  MITRE Network Center