Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!gatech!mcnc!ecsvax!ruslan From: ruslan@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robin C. LaPasha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: UltraCard Browser & Stacks Summary: It's not big by itself Message-ID: <7621@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> Date: 1 Sep 89 14:31:31 GMT References: <533@tardis.Tymnet.COM> <66130@linus.UUCP> Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service Lines: 46 In article <66130@linus.UUCP>, sdl@linus.UUCP (Steven D. Litvintchouk) writes: > In article <13457@super.ORG> rminnich@super.ORG (Ronald G Minnich) writes: > > *************************I LOVE IT******************************* > > It is really neat. One thing i *HATED* about hypercard was it took over the > > machine (in good Macintosh fashion, of course). > > Not quite. You could run Hypercard under Multifinder, and run other > applications as well, *if* you had a whole lot of RAM. > > Hypercard is 389K in size (not counting the stack sizes which can get > huge too). > > How big is UltraCard? How big do the stacks get? Can you run > Ultracard + some reasonably sized stacks on a 1 meg Amiga? > The program itself (version 1.11) is 235K. The ControlRoom (I guess it'd be like the Home stack) is another 116K. The Browser (the freely distributable thingie) is 104K. Some other examples: the Help stack is 136K (it has 3 or 4 major subtopics;) while a one-frame stack I built with a 16-color med-res picture as background (with two objects) was 57K. (Of course, that doesn't count showanim and the 425K anim I launched from within UltraCard via a CLI command...) Which brings up another issue - according to my text on HyperTalk (Shafer) you can't get back to HyperCard automatically if you launch an application under MultiFinder or miniFinder; you get left back at the system. But, with the regular Finder everything is "suspended" until the launched application finishes and returns you to HyperCard. I haven't tried "run" or "runback" yet with UltraCard, but as a normal CLI command it _should_ behave the same as it usually does (I just am not sure what'll happen ;^)). In any case, I expect that the ARexx links give a bunch of other options for what UltraCard can run, grab data from, and otherwise use - which may explain why Apple is trying to devise something similar for a 7.0-ish release (according to InfoWorld, they're building some sort of scripting language to go across apps..) (Disclaimers - Apple, *Finder, H*Card and H*Talk are probably all Apple's trademarks of some sort...) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=- Robin LaPasha |Deep-Six your ruslan@ecsvax.uncecs.edu |files with VI! ;^) ;^) ;^)